LOL Europe

[Muser]

Looks like they're every bit as good as England () and certainly better than France...

I wasn't debating those two teams.

[ElNono]

the point is....do you believe that Americas > Europe?

There are many variables in the WC like Europe hosts almost every ing time. Africa hosted this year and sadly, not even one team might advance. South America will host in 2014 Brazil since Argentina '78. We'll see.

I don't think it's static. I think it fluctuates all the time. But if we were to draw a line now and look back, then I would say that South America specifically has done incredibly well, and overall I think better than Europe, all things considered.

[ElNono]

I wasn't debating those two teams.

Well, your question was kind of a strawman... It's like me asking if Slovenia is better than Brazil or Argentina...

But I digress. Anybody could potentially beat anybody. That's why they play the games.

[urunobili]

CROFL Europe

Brazil > Argentina = Uruguay > England > France > Spain > Holland > rest of the scrubs

the only thing they can claim is Germany = Italy > Argentina = Uruguay

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Uruguay hasn't = Argentina since about the 1950's

[urunobili]

Uruguay hasn't = Argentina since about the 1950's

lol 1987 defeat of the WC champs with Maradona and all that champ team on their own field on their own cup

lol defeating them again in 1989 yet again with Maradona and all the rest of the world champs

[MaNuMaNiAc]

lol 1987 defeat of the WC champs with Maradona and all that champ team on their own field on their own cup

lol defeating them again in 1989 yet again with Maradona and all the rest of the world champs

lol at not winning a WC match in about 50 years

[ElNono]

lol 1987 defeat of the WC champs with Maradona and all that champ team on their own field on their own cup

lol defeating them again in 1989 yet again with Maradona and all the rest of the world champs

LOL crying when we eliminated Brazil in 1990
LOL Bolatti
LOL fan of Ecuador for a day

[ElNono]

[urunobili]

lol at not winning a WC match in about 50 years

1990 says o

stat checked required for the mod

[MaNuMaNiAc]

1990 says o

stat checked required for the mod

yeah, my bad

LOL at winning 1 WC match since 1974

[urunobili]

yeah, my bad

LOL at winning 1 WC match since 1974

LOL Argentina choking since 1986 too... IIRC 2 Copa America's since just like Uruguay

[MaNuMaNiAc]

LOL Argentina choking since 1986 too... IIRC 2 Copa America's since just like Uruguay

and Uruguayan talking about choking

[urunobili]

and Uruguayan talking about choking

Please enlighten us...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Please enlighten us...

Hey if I could find Uruguay's only WC victory in 36 years, you can find out what I'm referring to.

I.E. There's more than one

[ElNono]

Living vicariously throgh Brazil lately...

[urunobili]

Hey if I could find Uruguay's only WC victory in 36 years, you can find out what I'm referring to.

I.E. There's more than one

lol Ayala
lol Zanetti
lol Veron
lol 2002
lol last America's cup

[urunobili]

Living vicariously throgh Brazil lately...

How do you think I got into Basketball so much?

Maybe your mind would recall my golden generation support since 2002


lol butthurt for my comments on the average Uruguayan supporting Brazil
lol Cornudos for your support to Uruguay when you're out or not playing at all

[MaNuMaNiAc]

you like to dish it out but can take it, huh?

LOL at getting trolled back and falling for it

[ElNono]

How do you think I got into Basketball so much?

Maybe your mind would recall my golden generation support since 2002

lol butthurt for my comments on the average Uruguayan supporting Brazil
lol Cornudos for your support to Uruguay when you're out or not playing at all

LOL... My comment was not pointed exclusively to Uruguay...

[DAF86]

The reason for that is FIFA feels that the strongest confederations deserves the most slots. It's really sad that teams like Croatia, Ireland, and Russia still couldn't qualify because of the strength of UEFA. Meanwhile CONMEBOL has teams like Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia that are on the outside looking in. In all fairness, Europeans teams I mentioned are far superior than the ones left out of CONMEBOL. England almost didn't qualify for the European champion tournament a couple years ago. Looking at them now, it's not quite as shocking. This just shows the depth and quality of Europeans football.

The African continent was granted an additional slot this year because of Africa is the host continent. Yet, South Africa was exposed for its lack of quality. I mention this because the amount of slots that FIFA gives Africa is fair. Fair slots for CONMEBOL? Not sure..

I think FIFA should increase the amount of teams in the WC IMO. It's gone up slowly from 16 to 32......I want it at 40. I personally want to see more countries in the cup so players like Ryan Giggs and Abede Pele can be at the world's largest stage.

You don't watch a lot of South American football, don't you? Ecuador would all over teams like South Africa, New Zeland, North Korea, and the lesser teams of Europe. So would Colombia and Venezuela right now.

And you think it's fair that Africa (a continent that, I think, hasn't put a single team in the semis yet) has 5 slots but you don't know if it's fair that South America (9 WC) has 5 (4 and a playoff slot actually)? Really? You know that all 5 Conmebol teams are in first place in their groups right? I think you're highly underating America's football.

[Spurologist]

You don't watch a lot of South American football, don't you? Ecuador would all over teams like South Africa, New Zeland, North Korea, and the lesser teams of Europe. So would Colombia and Venezuela right now.

And you think it's fair that Africa (a continent that, I think, hasn't put a single team in the semis yet) has 5 slots but you don't know if it's fair that South America (9 WC) has 5 (4 and a playoff slot actually)? Really? You know that all 5 Conmebol teams are in first place in their groups right? I think you're highly underating America's football.

Ok fair enough. I thought it was 5 and a playoff slot. Either way, the slotting should be looked at. New Zealand doesn't deserve a play in the world cup if qualified teams remain at 32. The AFC/Oceania region should be reduced to 4 or even 3. I've only watched a few CONMEBOL world cup qualifiers (mostly Brazil), so I might be underrating them. I know Ecuador almost qualified.

I'm just so disappointed in CFA teams. I was happy African power Cote D'avoire, Cameroon, and Nigeria made it....now they're all out. I hope Ghana can carry Africa. Based on performance, they deserve only 1 slot. Pathetic and depressing. FIFA should just up the number of teams to 40 so I can see Brazil beat Faroe Islands 20-0.

[ElNono]

African teams were a disappointment because they did good in U20 and U16 tournaments a while ago, so it seemed it would translate to this generation. But that's skewed because their physicality is mostly superior at that age. I honestly think they don't deserve any more spots than Oceania/Asia.

[diego]

IMO african teams biggest problem is trying to play defensively when their strengths are up front. a coach like bielsa would do wonders. also I wonder if the fact that their federations are "younger", and their countries' generally poor economic situation make it harder for them to prepare properly.

[diego]

Elnono, the same is true for argentina (re: U16, U20 and physical advantages). I really think their problems come more from coaching, poor organizational support, and also I think they play a little naive, they need more experience.