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    Jordan has 7 seasons with a TS% of 57.9 or higher including four consecutive seasons with a TS% over 60. Kobe's best TS% would be Jordan's seventh best.

    lol @ Kobe never leading the league in any category of win shares and Jordan dominating that category for nearly a decade in offensive, total, and per 48.

    lol@ Kobe's best rebounding being way below Jordan's.

    lol @ Kobe's way higher turnover percentage

    lol @ Jordan's assist ratio for a season being way out of Kobe's stratosphere and his assist ratio for a career being significantly better as well

    lol @ Kobe even getting dominated in blocks and steals

    lol @ Jordan even dominating in Hollinger's questionable PER

    lol @ the whole concept of comparing Kobe to Jordan

    The only stat Kobe beats Jordan in is usage rate, lol.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    6 at 35

    5 at 32

    Ruh, roh.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    Who cares.


    I'm no fan of either.

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    Seriously Kobe is a nice player and all, but its time to stop comparing the two and whining with "Jordan had bad playoff games too" bs. They're not on the same level.

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    Who cares.


    I'm no fan of either.

    exactly, as long as those banners continue to go up in Staples - that's all what matters ........

    already looking forward to another ring night .......

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    Kobe doesn't deserve being compared to Jordan.

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    Seriously people, you can believe in comparing Kobe and Jordan or you can believe in advanced stats.

    It's one or the other, but not both.

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    As long as the Lakers are winning I couldn't give a about individual comparisons. MJ is hands-down the GOAT, case closed. The Lakers, however, are a better franchise far and away, and that's all I care about

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    As long as the Lakers are winning I couldn't give a about individual comparisons. MJ is hands-down the GOAT, case closed. The Lakers, however, are a better franchise far and away, and that's all I care about
    . I salute your unbiasedness (if that's a word). tbh I showed mine in the Duncan vs. Hakeem thread.

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    You gave the answer and obviously it's no. But what's your point.

    Pretty much everyone in the world says Jordan is better than Kobe. Pretty much everyone says Kobe will never catch Jordan. So ok, why so mad that people compare when the comparison always tells us Jordan is greater? You should be happy they make the comparison, because every time, Jordan comes out on top and does it easily.

    People compare Kobe with Jordan because Jordan set the standard so high that it would take someone playing at an unbelievable level for a long time to even come close to touching him. No one has come close. And, no, not even Kobe. But, of all the players that haven't come even close, Kobe has come closest. And yes he's still not close. But people like to talk. People like to explore the possibilities that Kobe could get in the same universe as the GOAT. But it's just talk. And almost everyone knows that.

    Why are you so mad at people talking?

    Heck, if you're so upset about it, why did you start another thread about it?

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    You gave the answer and obviously it's no. But what's your point.

    Pretty much everyone in the world says Jordan is better than Kobe. Pretty much everyone says Kobe will never catch Jordan. So ok, why so mad that people compare when the comparison always tells us Jordan is greater? You should be happy they make the comparison, because every time, Jordan comes out on top and does it easily.

    People compare Kobe with Jordan because Jordan set the standard so high that it would take someone playing at an unbelievable level for a long time to even come close to touching him. No one has come close. And, no, not even Kobe. But, of all the players that haven't come even close, Kobe has come closest. And yes he's still not close. But people like to talk. People like to explore the possibilities that Kobe could get in the same universe as the GOAT. But it's just talk. And almost everyone knows that.

    Why are you so mad at people talking?

    Heck, if you're so upset about it, why did you start another thread about it?
    Are you saying people like to have fun making a re ed comparison and that they should be left to have their fun making their re ed comparison? Like you should leave the kid who likes to play with the box that the present came in more than the present alone?

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    Dirk > Bird in advanced stats

    I guess OP thinks Bird is the lesser player.

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    Of course. We let you girls do it when calling Duncan the greatest power forward of all time. Yet everyone knows Karl Malone's numbers smashes Duncan's.
    Bad comparison, because not only does MJ's numbers > Kobe's numbers, MJ's accomplishments and accolades > Kobe's accomplishments and accolades.

    Malone's accomplishments doesn't compare to Duncan's, and he wasn't spoon-fed 80% of his points from John Stockton creating wide open jumpers and dunks for him.

    Karl Malone IMO is one of the more overrated players ever.

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    Dirk > Bird in advanced stats

    I guess OP thinks Bird is the lesser player.
    I just checked stats reference, he isn't. They're similar but Bird destroys him in assist ratio, steals, rebounds, plus has better defensive stats, and single season highs in several categories. They're about equal in career PER and win shares per 48 and Dirk beats him in a few singles season highs But Bird's a wash with Dirk even with Bird's last couple of years weighing down his numbers like Dirk's eventually will. Dirk's closer than he should be but its not a total all category whitewash like MJ v. Kobe.

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    really, i've grown tired of even trying to defend MJ anymore.

    I just point and laugh at dumbass marc jackson/kobe/laker fans

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    Of course. We let you girls do it when calling Duncan the greatest power forward of all time. Yet everyone knows Karl Malone's numbers smashes Duncan's.
    Not really, look at the advanced stats. Duncan consistently destroys Karl Malone in win shares (Duncan lead the league in win share categories nine times to Malone's three), Duncan led the league in defensive rating three times and Malone never came close. Tbh Duncan pimp slaps Malone overall in advanced stats.

    Go find a new argument.

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    hats and appearances in mascara?

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    Bad comparison, because not only does MJ's numbers > Kobe's numbers, MJ's accomplishments and accolades > Kobe's accomplishments and accolades.

    Malone's accomplishments doesn't compare to Duncan's, and he wasn't spoon-fed 80% of his points from John Stockton creating wide open jumpers and dunks for him.

    Karl Malone IMO is one of the more overrated players ever.

    Both Malone and Stockton are overrated, and they were equally dependent on each other to make each other look better than they really were. For some reason when two players run a pick and roll really well, the PG gets all the credit, and the big gets labeled as someone who would suck without said PG. Having one of the best passers of all time inflated Malone's stats, and having one of the best pick and roll bigs of all time inflated Stockton's stats. Neither one was more/less dependent on the other.

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    hats and appearances in mascara?
    gs hats?

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    hats and appearances in mascara?
    He destroys Jordan in hat ratio and mascara shares, but trails in Hitler mustache efficiency rating.

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    Ladies and gentlemen, hide your wives and hide your children.

    There's a black mamba in the building!

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    Of course. We let you girls do it when calling Duncan the greatest power forward of all time. Yet everyone knows Karl Malone's numbers smashes Duncan's.
    That was a grown man post

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    Where's the Jeff Van Gundy troll?

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    nope, Kobe is not as good as MJ ...

    He is not really THAT close ...

    But to say kobe or LBJ are not in the same sentence is asinine IMHO ...

    Jordan is JUST better ...i may not be a jordan fan but I repect his game and his gangsta ...

    Too bad the haters (jordan jockers) dont do the same for kobe ...or LBJ

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    Only one stat matters when it is all said and done.

    Rings!

    The players count les.... not stats.

    Shaq, Kobe, and TD having a conversation....

    Kobe: I have 5! Leaving you two in the dust now!

    Shaq: But but but... I was 1A and you were 1B for 3 of them so my tally is worth more.

    TD: But but but... My advanced stats are clearly better than yours so 4 > 5!!!

    Kobe:

    ... MJ, your next!!!!

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