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    The Memphis Grizzlies and Minnesota Timberwolves are close to swapping first-round draft picks, a source with direct knowledge of the situation tells ESPN.com's Andy Katz.

    The Grizzlies would send their 25th and 28th overall picks to Minnesota for the Timberwolves' 16th pick.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2...ory?id=5315275
    I doubt they'd do it, because if they were that enamored with a player likely to be in the 20 range, they'd have kept 16, but the Spurs should offer 20 to the Timberwolves for either 23 and 28 or 25 and 28. If they could pull that off, there's a good chance they could walk away with, say, Williams and Brackins.

    Then they'd be set on the front line (assuming Splitter signs, which looks highly likely at this point) and in the back court. They'd definitely need to sign a veteran SF/wing, but they'll probably have to do that anyway. Sure, there would be no long term successor in place at SF, but it's highly unlikely that the Spurs will be able to fill that role in this draft anyway. This would give the Spurs a year to evaluate Hairston and to a lesser extent, Gee, in game.

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    I doubt they'd do it, because if they were that enamored with a player likely to be in the 20 range, they'd have kept 16, but the Spurs should offer 20 to the Timberwolves for either 23 and 28 or 25 and 28. If they could pull that off, there's a good chance they could walk away with, say, Williams and Brackins.

    Then they'd be set on the front line (assuming Splitter signs, which looks highly likely at this point) and in the back court. They'd definitely need to sign a veteran SF/wing, but they'll probably have to do that anyway. Sure, there would be no long term successor in place at SF, but it's highly unlikely that the Spurs will be able to fill that role in this draft anyway. This would give the Spurs a year to evaluate Hairston and to a lesser extent, Gee, in game.
    If they're stuck at 20 and can pull that off, that's a no-brainer to me. It doesn't necessarily have to be those exact players but the premise is no doubt sound for the Spurs.

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    Heat Willing To Sell 18th Pick For Cap Space

    Jun 22, 2010 4:01 PM EST

    The Heat are willing to sell the 18th pick in Thursday's NBA Draft, according to league sources.

    "They want to sell it to clear cap space," one Western Conference executive told Yahoo!

    Opportunity knocks anyone? We have 4 unguaranteed contracts on the roster, Temple, Hairston, Gee, Jerrels...

    Daequan Cook + the 18th for pick 2 of those.

    The heat move both the cap hit of the 18th pick and Cook's guaranteed 1.3 million or so...

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    I doubt they'd do it, because if they were that enamored with a player likely to be in the 20 range, they'd have kept 16, but the Spurs should offer 20 to the Timberwolves for either 23 and 28 or 25 and 28. If they could pull that off, there's a good chance they could walk away with, say, Williams and Brackins.

    Then they'd be set on the front line (assuming Splitter signs, which looks highly likely at this point) and in the back court. They'd definitely need to sign a veteran SF/wing, but they'll probably have to do that anyway. Sure, there would be no long term successor in place at SF, but it's highly unlikely that the Spurs will be able to fill that role in this draft anyway. This would give the Spurs a year to evaluate Hairston and to a lesser extent, Gee, in game.
    If they're stuck at 20 and can pull that off, that's a no-brainer to me. It doesn't necessarily have to be those exact players but the premise is no doubt sound for the Spurs.
    I don't think the T-Wolves would give up the #16 pick for those two and then trade them right back to a team for the #20 pick...they lose value. Now, that doesn't mean one of their late first round picks won't be available for cash plus a future first rounder...but, I doubt there's a trade-back scenario that takes place if this one goes through.

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    Green room:
    13 in: Wall, Turner, Favors, Cousins, Johnson, Monroe, Aminu, Udoh, Davis, Hayward, Aldrich, Babbitt,George

    If, as DX speculate, Henry and Patterson are also in, it truly sucks for Spurs. Green room guys should be all gone at #20. It means that the best Spurs can do are: Damion James, Quincy Pondexter, Larry Sanders, Hassan Whiteside, Daniel Orton or Solomon Alabi.
    When I see what has been said about these players here, I'm not thrilled. With this lack of a good looking pick at #20, I expect the unexpected in this draft from Spurs.
    It has been confirmed that both Patterson and Henry are in the green room.

    The Memphis Grizzlies and Minnesota Timberwolves are close to swapping first-round draft picks, a source with direct knowledge of the situation tells ESPN.com's Andy Katz.

    The Grizzlies would send their 25th and 28th overall picks to Minnesota for the Timberwolves' 16th pick.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2...ory?id=5315275
    Interesting. It only takes #28 to move up from #25 to #16. Moving up from #20 to #16 could be doable for Spurs without giving too much.

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    I don't think the T-Wolves would give up the #16 pick for those two and then trade them right back to a team for the #20 pick...they lose value. Now, that doesn't mean one of their late first round picks won't be available for cash plus a future first rounder...but, I doubt there's a trade-back scenario that takes place if this one goes through.
    Like I said, if they're stuck at 20 and can pull that off, it's a no-brainer for the Spurs, IMO.

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    To follow up on the other trade scenario...I could definitely see the Spurs trading back into the late first round to acquire a second player. They have a lot of holes to fill without a lot of money to do it, this draft is seen as very deep with role players, there are a bunch of teams with multiple picks and they have worked out mostly lottery talent (for trade-up) or late-first round/early second round talent.

    So, a scenario where the Spurs select Brackins at #20 and trade back into the first round to snag E. Williams or Crawford seems very plausible.

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    It has been confirmed that both Patterson and Henry are in the green room.



    Interesting. It only takes #28 to move up from #25 to #16. Moving up from #20 to #16 could be doable for Spurs without giving too much.
    The question is: who are the Spurs targeting that will be there at #16/17 but not at #20?

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    To follow up on the other trade scenario...I could definitely see the Spurs trading back into the late first round to acquire a second player. They have a lot of holes to fill without a lot of money to do it, this draft is seen as very deep with role players, there are a bunch of teams with multiple picks and they have worked out mostly lottery talent (for trade-up) or late-first round/early second round talent.

    So, a scenario where the Spurs select Brackins at #20 and trade back into the first round to snag E. Williams or Crawford seems very plausible.
    Don't leave out Dominique Jones . . .

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    Opportunity knocks anyone? We have 4 unguaranteed contracts on the roster, Temple, Hairston, Gee, Jerrels...

    Daequan Cook + the 18th for pick 2 of those.

    The heat move both the cap hit of the 18th pick and Cook's guaranteed 1.3 million or so...
    2 of these 4 players won't be enough to match salaries.

    Spurs could do 2 possible delayed draft day trades:
    - Cook + #18 for Hairston + Jerrels + Gee + Temple that will be postponed until June 29th.
    - Cook + #18 for 3 of Hairston, Jerrels, Gee and Temple that will be postponed until July 8th.

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    The question is: who are the Spurs targeting that will be there at #16/17 but not at #20?
    One of Babbitt/George/Henry/Hayward could be available at #16 while they should be all gone at #20. Larry Sanders could also be a player worth moving up of few picks.

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    If they're stuck at 20 and can pull that off, that's a no-brainer to me. It doesn't necessarily have to be those exact players but the premise is no doubt sound for the Spurs.
    Exactly. They should also look to make a trade with the Thunder. I'm not enamored with the likely options at 20 and find it likely that the Spurs could land Williams later in the 20s. (if Williams is in fact their first choice). So the prudent thing to do is look to acquire two slightly later picks and fill two spots via the draft.

    I still say they go with Williams, but I could see them taking Brackins. I never saw James, Pondexter, Robinson, etc., but Brackins I could see.

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    Opportunity knocks anyone? We have 4 unguaranteed contracts on the roster, Temple, Hairston, Gee, Jerrels...

    Daequan Cook + the 18th for pick 2 of those.

    The heat move both the cap hit of the 18th pick and Cook's guaranteed 1.3 million or so...
    I like it. Cook isn't a three, but he's reasonably priced and I believe due for a bounce back season. He's young, athletic and can shoot the three. We all want a long term successor in place at SF in the mold of Batum, George, etc., but it's difficult to find that type of player. As I've previously stated, I believe the Spurs view Hairston as more of an SF than an SG, due to his lack of ball skills (similar to Udoka and Bogans).

    The Spurs could conceivably complete all of their off season work through the draft + the signing of Splitter. If they completed this trade and then drafted (I'll use these two for arguments sake, because they complete two areas of the roster) Williams and Brackins. Not that any of these guys are major building blocks, but they'd have good depth of young talent as well.

    I don't think the T-Wolves would give up the #16 pick for those two and then trade them right back to a team for the #20 pick...they lose value. Now, that doesn't mean one of their late first round picks won't be available for cash plus a future first rounder...but, I doubt there's a trade-back scenario that takes place if this one goes through.
    I don't either, but it's worth a shot. As I've touched on, I like the idea of moving 20 for another pick in the 20s and either a second later pick in the 20s or the high 30s.

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    Don't leave out Dominique Jones . . .
    Right...or Willie Warren or Terrico White. All of them have been worked out by the Spurs, so they should be considered candidates for selection.

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    I'm just a Jones fan and think it'd be between he and Williams (the latter their first choice) if there given their choice of combo guards; although Crawford may have their attention as well . . .

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    I'm just a Jones fan and think it'd be between he and Williams (the latter their first choice) if there given their choice of combo guards; although Crawford may have their attention as well . . .
    I don't know enough about any one of them to make a determination either way. But, I think I'd lean toward the guy that can shoot (Crawford) over the others because it was so clearly a need for the Spurs this past year.

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    One of Babbitt/George/Henry/Hayward could be available at #16 while they should be all gone at #20. Larry Sanders could also be a player worth moving up of few picks.
    So are you assuming that the trade goes through and the Spurs still have a shot at trading up to #16 on draft night if the right player falls? Or are you suggesting the Spurs put forward their own package to Minnesota?

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    Williams seems to be the most likely candidate because he does it all pretty well and could be a nice compliment to Hill, should he remain a Spur.

    Jones is just a little beast and someone who falls in that Wade/Stuckey mold. His shot needs some serious work to be a consistent distance jumpshooter, but he uses his body extremely well getting to the bucket, defending and his size is much better than even I realized. He's got a chance to be a really solid player in the league and someone who could be quite the asset to a team.

    Crawford's got the shot but he falls short in most other categories in comparison to the aforementioned, IMO. But his stock seems to have received a bump in the right direction and he's no doubt got talent. He doesn't exactly scream "Spur" to me but I can't dismiss him as a possibility. The Spurs like their shooters (and they need 'em as well).

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    Or are you suggesting the Spurs put forward their own package to Minnesota?
    That's what I'm suggesting.

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    That's what I'm suggesting.
    And if all of those players are gone by #16, then what? IMO, the prudent thing to do is have some tentative deals in place should certain players fall and make the call(s) on draft night.

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    For general edification, Hoopsanalyst is doing his usual draft opinions series. He's usually got some good points.

    http://hoopsanalyst.com/blog/?cat=16

    I find his opinions insightful. He's not got a high opinion of a lot of the smalls in this draft beyond Wall and Turner, but his analysis does single out James Anderson as a strong prospect. Coincidentally, some mocks have Anderson dropping to our range or even past it (eg Draftexpress has him at 30 currently). Anderson could be a very good pick; he could easily turn out to be a young Michael Finley...

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    Tuesday Night Draft Buzz (free): Udoh to GS at 6? Monroe to Pistons at 7; Bucks-Nets talking CDR swap http://es.pn/d4TVRG

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    Milwaukee will give Nets the 44th pick in Draft for Chris Douglas-Roberts, league source tells Y!. Now Jersey holds Nos. 3, 27, 31 and 44

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    Quick correction: Nets and Bucks still finalizing the 2nd-round pick in Chris Douglas-Roberts deal, but one team exec. says won't be 44 now.

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    Bucks won't give Nets 44th or 47th picks in Douglas-Roberts deal, team source says. Teams working on a future draft consideration.

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    I might miss the actual draft so maybe I can follow David Stern or something.
    Don't do it, it's not worth it. 90% of his tweets are, "No comment," "The refs are doing a great job," "I just fined Mark Cuban," or reviews of various kosher deli sandwiches across New York.

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