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    Rising above the Fray spursncowboys's Avatar
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    Good to know Obama shows anger about something. Too bad it's only when people are talking bad about him. We should tell him the unemployment rate thinks he walks like a .

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    good to know obama shows anger about something. Too bad it's only when people are talking bad about him. We should tell him the unemployment rate thinks he walks like a .
    lol.

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    Good to know Obama shows anger about something. Too bad it's only when people are talking bad about him. We should tell him the unemployment rate thinks he walks like a .
    No . Took Obama 2 months to talk to the CEO of BP but the general just days.

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    I don't think that this is that big of a deal, everyone has people they work with that they don't like, some that they don't respect.

    I do, however, think it makes him look petty and childish that he allowed this behavior to be observed by a reporter.
    In spades.

    No military commander is ever gonna express love for his civilian boss, any more than I could ever express love for any boss I had in private industry.

    It is, however, colossally ignorant of him to let the opinions out in public.

    It seems to me that he was posturing for his staff as much as anything else, especially since he voted for Obama.

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    And does the fact that he voted for Obama tell you anything about the Military's feelings about McCain as a potential Commnader-in-Chief?

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    And does the fact that he voted for Obama tell you anything about the Military's feelings about McCain as a potential Commnader-in-Chief?
    He's human. He made a mistake.

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    No . Took Obama 2 months to talk to the CEO of BP but the general just days.
    It probably would have been characterized as collusion with BP if Obama had met with the CEO in the immediate aftermath.

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    It probably would have been characterized as collusion with BP if Obama had met with the CEO in the immediate aftermath.
    Oh my God..the outrage by the Obama haters if Obama had a private meeting with the BP CEO in the immdeiate aftermath...

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    No . Took Obama 2 months to talk to the CEO of BP but the general just days.
    He's human. He made a mistake.

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    That's a pretty big ing mistake. Atleast you admit Obama is handling this whole oil spill crisis wrong. I seriously applaud you for that! My hats off to you mate.

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    He should have just flicked his wrist!

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    That's a pretty big ing mistake. Atleast you admit Obama is handling this whole oil spill crisis wrong. I seriously applaud you for that! My hats off to you mate.
    He's human. He made a mistake.

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    Biden IS an idiot and Holbrooke and Eikenberry are typical state department style hacks.
    Holbrooke, sure. Buy him for what he's worth and sell him for what Obama thinks he's worth. But I thought Eikenberry was a former commander. Like, within the last two or three years.

    McCrystal shouldn't be apologizing for showing up his civilian counterparts and higher-ups in front of a journalist.
    Fixed.

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    Apparently he just submitted his resignation.

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    Apparently he just submitted his resignation.
    Another bad omen for Obama.

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    Another bad omen for Obama.
    Why? It would have been worse for Obama to let him keep his job.

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    i wouldn't accept his resignation.

    i'd fire his ass.

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    i wouldn't accept his resignation.

    i'd fire his ass.
    You would his ass, .

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    closet door opening a little wider for ya, jack?

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    You know military people aren't allowed to denigrate their commander-in-chief? I mean, it's a relatively loose rule, and some private that complains about Obama will probably just be told to shut up, but a higher-up? Big no-no. It pretty much goes against the rule of leadership which the military relies on. You don't backtalk the leader, especially to subordinates or others. You up the chain, not down or sideways.

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    I disagree. A general shouldn't be making these kind of remarks (publicly) about his commmander in chief. He should save them for his memoirs.
    DarrinS gets it

    Tell me, if a general talks bad about the President, what does that do for the morale of his troops? What if they question the mission, think it's stupid, and then refuse to do it? It takes buy-in from all sources, from the top down.

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    You know military people aren't allowed to denigrate their commander-in-chief? I mean, it's a relatively loose rule, and some private that complains about Obama will probably just be told to shut up, but a higher-up? Big no-no. It pretty much goes against the rule of leadership which the military relies on. You don't backtalk the leader, especially to subordinates or others. You up the chain, not down or sideways.
    This is all true, and I think any of us who have served agree with this with few exceptions.

    Help me out here. I'm half way through the Rolling Stone article, and I have yet to see what he said that was insubordinate. Will I find it if I keep reading?

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    DarrinS gets it

    Tell me, if a general talks bad about the President, what does that do for the morale of his troops? What if they question the mission, think it's stupid, and then refuse to do it? It takes buy-in from all sources, from the top down.

    There were several generals that were critical of Bush and Rumsfeld, but they were no longer active duty.


    WTF are active duty generals granting interviews with Rolling Stone anyway?


    By all accounts, McChrystal is a good guy, but he screwed up on this one.

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    McChrystal is a Bush war criminal. He's the one who said Pat Tillman was killed in a shootout with Afghannie rebels and gave him his silver star medal.

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    McChrystal is a Bush war criminal. He's the one who said Pat Tillman was killed in a shootout with Afghannie rebels and gave him his silver star medal.
    Not everyone shares that opinion.

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