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    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...tes/index.html
    Teams who have investigated trading out of the first round to get away from guaranteed money: Miami, Chicago and San Antonio. The Heat and Bulls want as much cap space as possible for free agency, while the Spurs made a heavy investment before the season by going over the luxury tax. "There's a lot of picks kind of like, 'Let's get rid of this thing,' " one opposing executive said.

    Celtics are also said ready to trade their pick:
    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...-shopping-pick
    According to a source close to Boston Celtics general manager Danny Ainge, the Celtics have put their first-round pick in the NBA draft -- No. 19 overall -- on the market Wednesday, looking for a suitor.

    So #17, #18, #19 and #20 are available?

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    lol I don't think anyone has a clue on what the spurs are doing.

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    I just want it to be tomorrow already so we can all know what the the FO is gonna do.

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    With the perception that this is a weak draft, they could only expect their 20th pick to be valued as a late first rounder. Wouldn't get too much in return me thinks.

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    The highest pick they've had in a while and they still don't want it.

    I guess drafting so high has the FO out of their comfort-zone!

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    #20 is the only chance of getting some young SG/SF....

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    lol I don't think anyone has a clue on what the spurs are doing.
    Including them.

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    Makes sense.

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    Trade Parker, Trade Hill, Move up into the top 5, trade up into lottery, promised picks, and trading out of the draft completely. Yep no one, but the FO really knows what is going on. Let's just get this over with already.

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    Hmm.... what's the cost difference between #17 and a veteran minimum contract? $1mil for a young player who wouldn't get playing time?... what's the talent difference between that same #17 pick and an undrafted player?... probably worth the cost?

    Even if it's a draft and stash... I've never really understood selling first round draft picks without getting a 1st rounder in a later year at least back.

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    Of all of the trade rumors and scenarios that are out there, the Spurs trading out of the first round is the most likely for obvious reasons.

    The Spurs FO is still the same FO that likes to do things under the radar and more interested in draft-and-stash than making a splash on draft night and trading into the top ten.

    I'm not saying the Spurs making a move is not possible but this is typical Spurs FO and seems like the most likely scenario financially. And it's probably the best option too.

    Edit: I meant drafting at 20, or trading out of the first round are more likely than the other options that are out there.
    Last edited by AnthonyM; 06-23-2010 at 04:34 PM.

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    This is exactly why, even with all the rumors and perceived activity, I haven't allowed myself to get too excited. Anything could happen. Nothing has been predetermined.

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    When the Spurs float out word that they want to trade their pick before the draft, that has usually meant they have promised the pick to a player and want to put up a smokescreen.


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    am sure i would be one of many pissed off people if spurs trade out of 1st round and re-sign mason, bogans, bonner

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    I don't think it's a coincidence that all these consecutive picks are available.

    The 15 players in the green room (Wall, Turner, Favors, Johnson, Cousins, Monroe, Davis, Aminu, Babbit, Udoh, Henry, George, Patterson, Aldrich and Hayward) all looked good but there is a big drop after that. Teams picking just after this top 15 are in a complicate situation.

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    am sure i would be one of many pissed off people if spurs trade out of 1st round and re-sign mason, bogans, bonner
    Thats when you know the spurs dont care about winning, the FO would be dumb to trade out of the 1st round. I dont see the spurs trading out of the first round.

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    When the Spurs float out word that they want to trade their pick before the draft, that has usually meant they have promised the pick to a player and want to put up a smokescreen.

    So then we should guess that they promised Elli0t, the trading pick rumor is smokescreen, and then Portland will grab the 19th pick and grab our player again?

    Let's hope not.

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    I don't think it's a coincidence that all these consecutive picks are available.

    The 15 players in the green room (Wall, Turner, Favors, Johnson, Cousins, Monroe, Davis, Aminu, Babbit, Udoh, Henry, George, Patterson, Aldrich and Hayward) all looked good but there is a big drop after that. Teams picking just after this top 15 are in a complicate situation.
    True.

    This draft really falls off after those 15 players. If the Spurs really do want to trade their pick, they can probably get the most right now. Waiting only will make the value go down because the supply of available picks is sure to grow.

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    When the Spurs float out word that they want to trade their pick before the draft, that has usually meant they have promised the pick to a player and want to put up a smokescreen.

    I had a similar thought, especially reading all the speculation about Pritchard's plans to spoil the Spurs' plans again. But I really think they're just exhausting all options.

    At 20 they're not likely going to find a player that fills a real position of need or one that'll be capable of helping them too significantly in their first year. So unless they can trade up or get there hands on someone that can contribute right off the bat significantly, someone who fills a position of need now and in the future or just a talent they can't pass up that could be stashed away (a la Splitter), there's just no real impetus to take on another guaranteed contract given the state of their finance.

    This probably is a bit of a smokescreen but I think it's more to do with due-diligence and exhausting one's abilities to make available the best options possible. Like I said before, nothing's been predetermined and anything could happen.

    It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if nothing else . . .

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    Spurs always do their due-diligence and what-if scenarios. If the Blazers, Thunder, Rockets, or the like were to jump in front of the Spurs and get the last guy on their list...they trade out.

    Boston being willing to trade out gives a team an opportunity to jump in front.


    Celtics are also said ready to trade their pick:
    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...-shopping-pick



    So #17, #18, #19 and #20 are available?

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    Sweet, Jebus!

    I guess they weren't lying about too much plastic surgery making you look like a cat . . .

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    I don't think it's a coincidence that all these consecutive picks are available.

    The 15 players in the green room (Wall, Turner, Favors, Johnson, Cousins, Monroe, Davis, Aminu, Babbit, Udoh, Henry, George, Patterson, Aldrich and Hayward) all looked good but there is a big drop after that. Teams picking just after this top 15 are in a complicate situation.
    Read a quote by Larry Bird who confirmed that a lot of teams are trying to trade out of first round. Must be a consensus that the talent drop off after the first few picks is enormus.

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    Read a quote by Larry Bird who confirmed that a lot of teams are trying to trade out of first round. Must be a consensus that the talent drop off after the first few picks is enormus.
    That's why I think that you don't trade Parker unless it is to NJ or Philly. This crap about Indiana is ridiculous.

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    All this means is that Splitter and the Spurs have come to an agreement and the Spurs want to decrease the amount of guaranteed money on the books.

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    All this means is that Splitter and the Spurs have come to an agreement and the Spurs want to decrease the amount of guaranteed money on the books.
    lets cross the fingers !

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