Parker wants trade if Hill starts

[Mr Bones]

I guess my main angle on this question is that the PG position is generally overrated. Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, Tony Parker and many others are better by far than Derek Fisher and Jameer Nelson, who both went further into the playoffs the last two years. I just think if you look at the Spurs' record with and without Parker, there's not much of a difference. If their interior D improves with Splitter + another part and their perimeter D and 3 pt shooting improve, I think they contend for one more le with Duncan. If they come back with the Big 3, Jefferson, McDyess, Splitter, and the 20th pick they are a very good team that probably loses in the second round of the playoffs. Hill can't be traded for game-changers, due to both his level of talent and his inexpensive contract. Parker can. That's the only reason I think a Parker trade should be explored.

[Spurs Brazil]

Trade Parker would be a huge mistake

[TMTTRIO]

It's really interesting that people say if Tony is asked to come off the bench, he should demand a trade. With this logic, Manu would have been traded 5 years ago and people on this board would have killed him for not being a "team player".

If Pop deems that the team is better suited with Hill starting and Tony coming off the bench (not that Pop would decide this, but if he did) then Tony should shut his mouth and come off the bench, the same way Manu did. If he doesn't like it he can leave in free agency next year. But what makes Parker so much more special than Manu?

To be fair, even Manu was pretty angry at first for a while of having to come off the bench for Hedo and knowing that it may affect his Free Agency and the deal that he got that summer.

[Vic Petro]

To be fair, even Manu was pretty angry at first for a while of having to come off the bench for Hedo and knowing that it may affect his Free Agency and the deal that he got that summer.

I recall the nation of Argentina being angry, but don't remember anything coming directly from Manu or his agent.

[rjv]

ah, the old "confidants" source. very credible indeed.

[ploto]

Manu will likely be going back to the bench so that they can continue managing his minutes - so Parker will be back in the starting lineup anyway.

Unless Spurs want to showcase Jefferson and start Manu with him.

[4down]

Say it ain't so, Manu Jr.!!!

[PDXSpursFan]

Parker should start and also Manu.

[DPG21920]

LOL at some of these arguments. Whether or not TP gets traded, or the reasons behind it, saying TP should get traded because we have Hill is unquestionably stupid.

[Parker2112]

Obviously Parker declined. He went from an All-NBA season to one where he couldn't get healthy.

I just don't think that they will start a Manu-Hill backcourt all year. It will wear down Manu by the playoffs because he'll have to do too much. That's why they like to bring Manu off the bench - to manage his minutes better and keep him as fresh as possible for the postseason.

This argument, that Manu will wear down, is complete and utter fail. If Manu gets most of his minutes at 1 and lets George play 2, we could actually have Manu the playmaker on the floor more, doing less, while simultaneously extending his career. We dont lose the slashing ability of TP, we get more shooters on the floor, and our defense is immediately upgraded.

[senorglory]

I love parker as much as anybody on here (no , no rainbow) but what is so hard for yall to understand it's over HILL is the future i guess yall didn't watch hill play this year, hill's d is better than tony's d has ever been.

Tony has stated previously that he considers himself one of the top 5 defensive point guards in the league.

[Parker2112]

We would definitely need a strong consistent backup PG if TP is gone though.

[Killakobe81]

Hill CAN play the point but needs to be in the triangle!!!!

We can give you Farmar (poor man's Parker) AND Sasha the manu stopper for Hill!!! LOL



I will take his suspect defense on my team ...

Hill
Kobe
Artest
Pau
Bynum

Id take that lineup all day everyday ...

Bench: Odom, Brown, Fish, filler, filler, filler

[Parker2112]

Tony has stated previously that he considers himself one of the top 5 defensive point guards in the league.

He also said Rondo was overrated. That was BS too.

[mingus]

i'm hoping they move RJ to the bench next year. they can still limit Manu's minutes if he starts. i just think the RJ/Parker combination sucks and don't see a reason why they should play together. unless RJ comes back a way better 3-point shooter, it is a doomed combo. hopefully the Spurs draft or attain a sf that can shoot and spread the floor alongside TP and Manu.

[silverblk mystix]

If anyone should be traded, I say it should be hill for one of the top ten picks in the draft.

PG should be TP with Temple as the backup.

Having said that, would any team in the top ten be willing to-or in need of Hill?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'd want a trade too because it would be proof positive that someone coaching on the Spurs bench has lost some marbles, and who wants to be coached by a crazy man.

[TDMVPDPOY]

just trade him and get this over and done with, tired of this nonsense

[Parker2112]

This argument, that Manu will wear down, is complete and utter fail. If Manu gets most of his minutes at 1 and lets George play 2, we could actually have Manu the playmaker on the floor more, doing less, while simultaneously extending his career. We dont lose the slashing ability of TP, we get more shooters on the floor, and our defense is immediately upgraded.

Oh, and I forgot...With Manu at the PG, we will have added length to defend bigger teams. With Tiago, we will actually be able to put a long squad on the court.

[G-Dawgg]

Hill is way better than Parker on defense. When we played Los Angeles, he did well shadowing Kobe Bryant. If Parker ever guarded Kobe, he'd get raped like he was from Colorado.....

Don't get me wrong i like Parker, he was a big part of our championship teams but the Spurs are greater than one player and if they need to trade Parker in order to stay competetive AND invest in the future, then I guess it's a sacrifice that the organization needs to make.

[Tp9gospursgo]

I highly doubt TP said this..it could be true but i'm betting he didn't. Tp isnt playing with the national team this year cause he obviously thinks the Spurs have at least one more good run in them. He was benched in the playoffs why would he care in the reg season?

[Ice009]

I love parker as much as anybody on here (no , no rainbow) but what is so hard for yall to understand it's over HILL is the future i guess yall didn't watch hill play this year, hill's d is better than tony's d has ever been.

Hill got his ASS lit up. What were you watching????? Almost every decent PG lit him up. I was actually really disappointed with George's defense this season after he showed some great stuff last season and even earlier this season.

Around Game 3 against the Mavs I wanted TP to start again.

I also just want to add that have you even watched TP in the playoffs in Championship seasons or any other season he was not injured or coming off an injury? His D have been very, very good, a lot better than what Hill showed in the playoffs this season.

[Cane]

Tp isnt playing with the national team this year cause he obviously thinks the Spurs have at least one more good run in them. He was benched in the playoffs why would he care in the reg season?

Solid point but for argument's sake Parker might care since its a contract year. He could also have passed on the NT to prepare for the contract year in addition to maximizing the Spurs.

[Ice009]

If the Spurs trade Parker, it's for one reason only - to save money. If Holt & Company decided the spending spree is over due to the Jefferson debacle, then they'll trade Parker for whatever they can and later re-sign Hill for cheap.

So if TP is traded you don't think any move we make can give us a better shot at the Championship? No way do I want any sort of trade like this unless it helps the Spurs compete for a Championship better.

[Tp9gospursgo]

Solid point but for argument's sake Parker might care since its a contract year. He could also have passed on the NT to prepare for the contract year in addition to maximizing the Spurs.

Very good point. It would just be weird to see Parker in any other uniform than the Spurs..