Dallas Mavericks off-season thread

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Jefferson plays Amare Stoudemire level defense if not worse. I still think his defense would improve on a team with better offensive players, but right now his defense is a giant abortion, worse than Gasol's defense ever was on LA or Memphis.

People are still living off his rep as an awful defender back from 2007, much like people still live off of Dirk's bad defensive rep from early 2000s. both have improved considerably. Jefferson isn't great, but hes worlds better than he was in 2007. in fact i recall in several of the games this year against Minny, he played some damn good defense on Dirk, and definitely made a difference in the paint, a bigger difference than I have ever seen Amare make.

And as you say, when he has less load on him, and a more competent defensive team, it will help him as well.

[Rogue]

rogue gave you his password. smart move tbh.

did you a stretch exchange passwords as you were swordfighting last night?

[BUMP]

Anyone who would pass on Big Al is completely re ed. This twhottt troll is acting like hakeem olajuwon's and ben wallace's are all over the market. Getting a 20 ppg low post scorer is something we can't pass up at all. Who else is ing out there? Seriously. Gortat?

This guy sounds like SpurFan who said they would rather have Splitter over Amare and even that argument makes more sense than this one

[monosylab1k]

I'm just saying, if I was GM right now, we'd be rolling with a lineup of

Baron Davis
Corey Maggette
Gerald Wallace
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Kaman

and a bench consisting of:
Shawn Marion
Rashad McCants
Roddy Beaubois
Drew Gooden
Tim Thomas
Erick Dampier
Matt Carroll

I would have taken the Davis/Kaman for Kidd trade.
I would have done J-Ho for G-Force
I would have done the Marion trade (one thing Donnie did right)
I would have traded JET for Maggette
I would have traded JJ Barea for a blow job

this lineup still amazes me.

this doesn't even factor in that I would have done the Kobe/Dirk trade.

which means this -

actually I need to edit this^ to make myself look even better.

this would be the starting 5

Baron Davis
Kobe Bryant
Gerald Wallace
Shawn Marion
Chris Kaman

I would have traded Kobe for Dirk when he was on the table.

o 5 straight les!

[Mavs_man_41]

Anyone who would pass on Big Al is completely re ed. This twhottt troll is acting like hakeem olajuwon's and ben wallace's are all over the market. Getting a 20 ppg low post scorer is something we can't pass up at all. Who else is ing out there? Seriously. Gortat?

This guy sounds like SpurFan who said they would rather have Splitter over Amare and even that argument makes more sense than this one

let me log into pussyface so i can say "and now we have the dumb opinion.."

i've always wanted to say that

[Veterinarian]

Anyone who would pass on Big Al is completely re ed. This twhottt troll is acting like hakeem olajuwon's and ben wallace's are all over the market. Getting a 20 ppg low post scorer is something we can't pass up at all. Who else is ing out there? Seriously. Gortat?

This guy sounds like SpurFan who said they would rather have Splitter over Amare and even that argument makes more sense than this one

[Mavs_man_41]

and mono..tbh those lineups aren't winning any les. you're a smart guy but being a mav fan for so long has distorted and flawed you view of basketball. you come up with some great ideas but you have no clue how to construct a winning basketball team. stick to fantasy

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This guy sounds like SpurFan who said they would rather have Splitter over Amare and even that argument makes more sense than this one

[Edward]

Nope. tbh my main accoount is no one special or well known here, so you wouldn't guess ever.

symple19?

[BUMP]

i must've missed the point where Haywood/Gortat=championship front line

[stretch]

and mono..tbh those lineups aren't winning any les. you're a smart guy but being a mav fan for so long has distorted and flawed you view of basketball. you come up with some great ideas but you have no clue how to construct a winning basketball team. stick to fantasy

LMAO thinking a guard duo of Baron Davis and Corey Maggette is going to win a le. the two of them would be taking 40+ shots a game, combined. No bueno.

[Mavs_man_41]

i must've missed the point where Haywood/Gortat=championship front line

don't be so simple minded. they would still need to bring in another creator in the halfcourt to compliment dirk. all i'm saying is a 2 pf lineup = layup line against a team like LA.

[Mavs_man_41]

LMAO thinking a guard duo of Baron Davis and Corey Maggette is going to win a le. the two of them would be taking 40+ shots a game, combined. No bueno.

[Edward]

All m>s is saying is Jefferson isn't gonna be what puts Dallas over the top. He never said it won't be an improvement over Damp/Haywood, he said it wouldn't work, and he'd prefer the idea of Haywood/Gortat at center and getting a SG who can score in the halfcourt so Dallas has a player other than Dirk who can.

[monosylab1k]

LMAO thinking a guard duo of Baron Davis and Corey Maggette is going to win a le. the two of them would be taking 40+ shots a game, combined. No bueno.

yeah there's nothing tier than a backcourt featuring a PG who is a strong defender, great passer, has balls of steel, and hits clutch shots, coupled with a SG who attacks the basket relentlessly and gets to the FT line 8-10 times a game.

[BUMP]

All m>s is saying is Jefferson isn't gonna be what puts Dallas over the top. He never said it won't be an improvement over Damp/Haywood, he said it wouldn't work, and he'd prefer the idea of Haywood/Gortat at center and getting a SG who can score in the halfcourt so Dallas has a player other than Dirk who can.

But Dallas isn't gonna get a SG better than Butler so its a moot point

IMO, this whole argument is pointless cause nobody is stopping LA from getting to the Finals anyway

[Mavs_man_41]

All m>s is saying is Jefferson isn't gonna be what puts Dallas over the top. He never said it won't be an improvement over Damp/Haywood, he said it wouldn't work, and he'd prefer the idea of Haywood/Gortat at center and getting a SG who can score in the halfcourt so Dallas has a player other than Dirk who can.

someone gets it

you should get an award. ps i think u meant MM41

[monosylab1k]

All m>s is saying is Jefferson isn't gonna be what puts Dallas over the top. He never said it won't be an improvement over Damp/Haywood, he said it wouldn't work, and he'd prefer the idea of Haywood/Gortat at center and getting a SG who can score in the halfcourt so Dallas has a player other than Dirk who can.

name all the world class SG's who can create their own offense that are available.

[monosylab1k]

someone gets it

you should get an award. ps i think u meant MM41

QUIT FRONTIN we all know you're m>s

[Edward]

But Dallas isn't gonna get a SG better than Butler so its a moot point

IMO, this whole argument is pointless cause nobody is stopping LA from getting to the Finals anyway

Butler is a SF tbh, one way a legit SG helps Dallas is Butler gets to move back up to SF. They might be able to get Joe Johnson since ATL probably has no inclination to think he's headed back there and would prolly do a S'n'T for Damp's contract + draft picks

[Mavs_man_41]

QUIT FRONTIN we all know you're m>s

i know m>s in real life, we are pretty good friends. i'm the one who told him about this board. that's probably why you think our posting styles are similar.i was on this board long before ms, though.

[Edward]

name all the world class SG's who can create their own offense that are available.

It's mere speculation but Joe Johnson.

[Veterinarian]

tbh Maggette's insane annual 58-60 TS% makes him different than your average chucker who shoots too much.

[monosylab1k]

Butler is a SF tbh, one way a legit SG helps Dallas is Butler gets to move back up to SF. They might be able to get Joe Johnson since ATL probably has no inclination to think he's headed back there and would prolly do a S'n'T for Damp's contract + draft picks

after a month ago arguing that nobody will do a s/t with Dallas for a legit star, now you're throwing Joe Johnson out there?

[Greg Oden]

It's mere speculation but Joe Johnson.

world class SG's and Joe Johnson don't belong in the same sentence after his awesome display of suck he showed in the playoffs.