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the mavs would do better with ray allen signed for the mle and iggy at the 2/3 than bringing in jefferson
kidd/allen/iggy/dirk/gortat is better than anything else propose so far.
after a month ago arguing that nobody will do a s/t with Dallas for a legit star, now you're throwing Joe Johnson out there?
I said Lebron James, I never said nobody, don't make stuff up. Two completely different situations. Lebron is his own special case since his team's entire future is invested in him resigning with them.
the mavs would do better with ray allen signed for the mle and iggy at the 2/3 than bringing in jefferson
kidd/allen/iggy/dirk/gortat is better than anything else propose so far.
Joe Johnson? Another jumpshooter that disappears in the playoffs?
I can already see MavFans now calling for his head next year when we're bounced from the 1st round after he pulls what he did in Atlanta this year
or even start beaubois and bring kidd off the bench and see how we do.
flawed reasoning.
you're talking about what they have the POTENTIAL to do. not what they actually give on a nightly basis.
Davis gives half-assed efforts, can be a turnover machine, and bricks 5 or 6 threes in a single game just as often as he has those nights where he is "a strong defender, great passer, has balls of steel, and hits clutch shots". its pretty evident by his average 3 TOs a game 27% from 3, and 40% from the field.
Maggette had a strong year this year, but typically has mediocre shooting % as well, and takes a lot of bad shots and forces dumb drives, often pushing other scorers out of their comfort zone as he forces dumb offense.
If he was on Dallas he wouldn't be the biggest threat on the court, defenses wouldn't be able to key in on him, he'd shoot a lot better.
Maggette's TS% is in the insane for a go to scorer 58-60% rate annually.
Plus he might not have the best coach in the world, but Carlisle's offense is at least better than Mike Woodson's "everyone take turns going 1 on 5" iso offense.
Haywood won't resign here. RC ed around with him to much down the stretch and in the playoffs. If another center is brought into Dallas like Gortat, Shaq, Al etc... No way Wood will want to return and split time. Some team with cap space who missed out on the top free agents will blow there load thinking they must spend there $$$ on someone and give it to Wood. I see Wood as one of those guys who gets his $$$, similar to Damp and goes on cruise control and teases us with 20/20 games
That sounds good and all, but we've been saying the same thing about Terry, Kidd, Marion, etc. This moves makes us a better team no doubt, BUT
If I'm the Mavs GM, i know the road through the West goes through LA so i have to build a team to counter them. The best chance to counter them is to build a strong front court. If you have Bynum and Pau constantly guarding two 20 pt scorers, then that will wear them down considerably. Jefferson and Dirk would be just as dynamic if not more than Pau and Bynum.
Gortat and Haywood ain't gonna get it done
If Maggs is your 6th/7th man I'm fine with that for scoring off the bench. I want no part of him playing 35 min a night, plus the guy is made of glass
it ain't all about the offensive end. what do you not understand about the concept of a layup line? teams will get easy shots on us all game long, whenever they want, and especially in crunch minutes. an undersized SG and empty space will be all that's separating the kobe's and wade's from the rim. playoff games are won with defensive stops down the stretch.That sounds good and all, but we've been saying the same thing about Terry, Kidd, Marion, etc. This moves makes us a better team no doubt, BUT
If I'm the Mavs GM, i know the road through the West goes through LA so i have to build a team to counter them. The best chance to counter them is to build a strong front court. If you have Bynum and Pau constantly guarding two 20 pt scorers, then that will wear them down considerably. Jefferson and Dirk would be just as dynamic if not more than Pau and Bynum.
Gortat and Haywood ain't gonna get it done
Are Gortat and Joe Johnson supposed to turn us into the 2004 Pistons or something?
Fellas, we've got alot of scenarios on our plate right now. Just understand that while silence isn't inactivity, it also doesn't mean we think swift action is the proper course.
We love the team we've got currently assembled. That doesn't mean we won't add to it. There's certain bullet points we've got in mind. When those bullet points are reached, then the possibility of action is possible. When the possibility of action becomes a possibility, then we'd certainly look at all avenues to understand the nuances of action within our silence.
No but they'd help them a lot defensively while making Dallas a better half court offensive team. Butler and JJ are both good-great perimeter defenders, while Gortat's interior D is underrated. With JJ, Butler could go back to being a defense first player and expend a lot more energy on that side of the court, while JJ also provides a good option to run the 2 man game with Dirk.
People are underrating JJ right now because he sucked in the playoffs, and at the end of the regular season people were overrating him saying he's just as good as Kobe. He can easily be a member of a "big 3" similar to the big 3's that have won championships recently. Unfortunately for Dallas they don't have a 3rd star to pair with Dirk and JJ but together Beaubois and Butler might give them that.
Gortat is an incredible basketball player. I cream my pants every time I see his sexy bald head. He's a lock for the HOF when it's all said and done. We will be doing everything in our power to add Gortat to the Boys In Blue, even if it means trading Dirk.
Joe Johnson is another story. We don't feel he has the veteran savvy or NBA experience to help this team. We are, however, looking at getting Jerry Stackhouse back. His savvy is what propelled the Bucks to their incredible playoff run.
Eh, i guess we'll just agree to disagree then. I'm not gonna sit here and say i know everything, cause you've probably watched both more than i have so there is no right or wrong its all hypothetical.
One thing i know is that the Mavs are gonna choke in some epic entertaining fashion as usual next postseason, and i for one cannot wait
Sounds good as long as we can get Devean George and his championship savvy back
At this point I'd do the Kaman/Baron Davis trade. I really dislike Davis' injury and quitter history, but if we're talking trying to make the most of Dirk's remaining window, maybe Davis stays healthy and motivated for an entire year. 2007 is what happens when he does. Kaman would be the real jewel however: he's exactly what we need to pair alongside Dirk on the block.
Fact is the mavs can't get kareem, hakeem, 25 yr old Shaq, Ewing, Robinson to play center. Big Al would be a huge upgrade, I know he is not a true C but other than Dwight, who the is... Problem is Minny would like a 1st rounder in a deal as well as clearing cap space
Davis is absolute garbage, that would be like taking on Brand's contract to get Iggy
I agree bro. Gortat, although he doesn't have a championship, is a true champion who can win at every level. We need to trade Dirk for some aging veterans who bring championship experience who can also help out our future guys like JJ Barea and Matt Carroll. Do you think Derrick Coleman, Glen Rice, and Vin Baker are willing to come out of retirement?
Just outa curiosity, how far do you want the Mavs going to make the most outa Dirk's remaining window? They've overpaid a lot of 3rd and 4th tier players (Marion, Kidd as examples from just last year) to keep Dallas compe ive with Dirk and their cap situation basically sucks because of it. At what point do you want them to stop s ing out longterm money to complimentary players like Haywood and giving up on winning with Dirk?
I ask because IMO you're talking about giving Brendan Haywood a 5 year deal while being open to absorbing some bad contracts and I'm just curious if you've considered that it might make the rebuilding process worse and longer once Dirk's window is closed if you have a bunch of overpaid role players jamming up the salary cap.
We could always raise George Mikan from the dead
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