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    He's saying that people shouldn't get mad and shut him up on their forums when he says Global Warming is a myth like their mad solely because he disagrees with them. They're mad because he's just lying and referring to a bunch of bull pseudo-science while trying to confuse people with half-baked scientific anecdotes and blurbs that don't mean what he says they mean.
    Sure.

    But shouldn't he be free to say it, all the more so since we're all free to rebut him?

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    If propaganda were ever effectively banned from this forum, we'd miss out on more than a few chuckles, brother. Conversation could even cease temporarily.

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    He should not have received a bomb, dismantled or otherwise.

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    how do you know he didn't concoct this entire event?

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    what would he have to gain from lying?

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    If propaganda were ever effectively banned from this forum, we'd miss out on more than a few chuckles, brother. Conversation could even cease temporarily.
    Yeah, but he's probably one of those people who says that schools who ban people who teach that the Earth is 6000 years old/Global warming is a myth are against free speech, like if you banned a math teacher who taught that 2+2=5 you'd be banning free speech. Tbh his argument is so re ed that I need to take stupid pills to fully understand it.

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    what would he have to gain from lying?
    he could be an attention .

    see "joe the plumber"

    see "B girl"

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    it was a rhetorical question.

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    it was a rhetorical question.
    and i thought we had built a bridge of communication.

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    that's what you get for being like wild cobra and assuming

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    that's what you get for being like wild cobra and assuming
    take that back. wild cobra's assumptions are legend.

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    What did the Spanish police have to say about it? Strange there is nothing from them in the fair and balanced report.

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    no

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    Dr. Calzada contacted a terrorism expert to handle the package. The expert first performed a scan of the package, then opened it in front of a journalist, Dr. Calzada, and a private security expert.
    No mention of the police at all.

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    No mention of the police at all.
    could have gotten the components from said expert.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    If propaganda were ever effectively banned from this forum, we'd miss out on more than a few chuckles, brother. Conversation could even cease temporarily.
    However, boutons would vanish in a puff of logic, so it has it's good points.

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    He should not have received a bomb, dismantled or otherwise.
    I agree. Netflix needs to be prosecuted for distributing Pauly Shore movies for the same reasons.

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    where's the rest of the story?

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    where's the rest of the story?
    <crickets>

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    how do you know he didn't concoct this entire event?
    We don't.

    People usually don't make this stuff up though. On the other hand, zealots occasionally will rationalize lying about things.

    The paper I read didn't make him really sound like one of those zealots, IMO.

    More likely to me is that Mr. Alvarez' account is genuine and there is simply some jackass out there that did it.

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    No mention of the police at all.
    hmm *that* is an important point though.

    Conspiracy theorists tend to be masters at rationalizing behaviors.

    It may even be possible that some "denier" did it to have something to make "greenies" look bad.

    Hard to say. I hope it gets taken to real police so we can get some idea as to what/who dunnit.

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    I agree. Netflix needs to be prosecuted for distributing Pauly Shore movies for the same reasons.
    Tbh I laughed my ass off when Roger Ebert said something to the effect of "A critics job is to be a bomb sniffing dog for the public" and that they see and sit through the turds like Pauly Shore so we don't have to.

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    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page...s__Outrage_is_

    Someone actually contacted the company in question.

    The item sent seems to have been an oil filter and some other auto parts.

    Basically, the company says it meant to send a copy of a formal report and response. What got sent instead was a package of loose autoparts of some sort. Either the mistake was one of a shipping department or a postal mix-up.

    The guy didn’t know what was in there, so he called the company, and they, thinking that he was referring to what they thought they sent, i.e. some bound paper report and response, said it was their response to his work. This was taken as a sinister threat, rather than what was probably intended.

    The end of the article referenced by LGF said basically that the guy himself seems convinced it was simply a misunderstanding.

    Here is the original spanish article:

    http://www.libertaddigital.com/econo...da-1276395934/

    Basically it is some cherry picking by some blog who was looking for something to pin on "envirowhackos" and didn't bother to fact-check. This got passed around in an internet "Telephone Game" by a bunch of conservatives who love stories that fit into their "envirowhacko" narrative.

    Total non-issue.

    Why am I not surprised?

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    did he carve anything on his face?

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    did he carve anything on his face?
    Good call.

    For those who don't remember:

    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...56/detail.html

    Police: Woman With 'B' Scratched In Face Faked Political Attack
    Bloomfield ATM Robbery At Knifepoint Was Made Up, Police Say

    On Thursday afternoon, police reported that Todd told them she was using a Citizens Bank ATM at Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street when a man approached her and put a knife to her throat just before 9 p.m. Wednesday.

    Police spokeswoman Diane Richard said Todd told them the robber took $60, then became angry when he saw a sticker for Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain on Todd's car. Todd said the man punched and kicked her before using a dull knife to scratch her face, Richard said.

    "She further stated that the male actor approached her from the back again and hit her in the back of her head with an object, she doesn't know what the object was, causing her to fall to the ground where he continued to punch her and kick her and threaten to 'teach her a lesson' for being a McCain supporter," Richard said Thursday.

    The woman refused medical treatment after the alleged assault, which happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras. That seemed su ious to police.

    "We have robbers here in Pittsburgh, but they don't generally mutilate someone's face like that. They take the money and run," Bryant said.

    Speaking to Channel 4 Action News on Friday, Richard said police decided to question Todd because the details of her story weren't adding up.
    Video:Raw Interview: Police Spokeswoman Talks to WTAE

    "We have learned that the victim's statement has a few inconsistencies in it and her statement has changed," said Richard.

    Richard said Todd said on Friday she wasn't sure if it was a bumper sticker on her car or a campaign button on her jacket that angered the attacker. Richard said Todd added new details to the attack, saying at one point she lost consciousness.

    "She also indicated she was sexually assaulted as well. She indicated that when he had her on the ground he put his hand up her blouse and started fondling her. But other than that, she says she doesn't remember anything else. So we're adding a sexual assault to this as well," Richard said.

    Police said they gave a polygraph test to Todd, but they didn't release the results. During a follow-up interview, Todd came clean.

    "Miss Todd stated she made up the story, which snowballed and got out of control. Miss Todd stated she was not robbed and there was no 6-foot-4 black male attacker," Richard said.

    On Thursday, before police said the story was a fake, both the Obama-Biden and McCain-Palin campaigns released statements about the attack.

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