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Bobcats just announced that they have extended qualifying offer to Tyrus Thomas, making him restricted free agent
I really hope you're wrong because that's not a very deep roster. At least two guys out of the Gee-Hairston-Temple-Mahinmi-Richards group need to be replaced with NBA veterans.
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Bobcats just announced that they have extended qualifying offer to Tyrus Thomas, making him restricted free agent
I think we'll look to free agency to find another SF. My gut is telling me Hairston and Gee's time is up.
C Splitter/McDyess/Richards
PF Duncan/Blair/Mahinmi
SF Jefferson/free agent
SG Anderson/Manu
PG Tony/Hill/Temple
is how I see the roster finishing as.
Do you really see a veteran coming in for the minimum and being relevant in the grand scheme of things (because I don't).
Spurs have:
Parker
Ginobili
Jefferson
Duncan
Splitter
McDyess
Blair
Hill
Anderson
All being the main core that will be the main gist( no not that one) of the rotation.
After that the Spurs would be wise to retain players that can not only help now, but also be building blocks for the future.
Spurs don't need to surround the Ginobili, Duncan, Parker, McDyess, Jefferson nucleus with older minimum-like veterans when they have more talented young players that are able to contribute more effectively ( Hill, Blair, Anderson, and even Mahinmi (if resigned) and Hairston and Gee to a degree)...
I'm not making you agree with me now.
Just my opinion.
I would like the idea of signing Anthony Tolliver from GS as the 5th big. He stretches the floor, has NBA game experience now, and has played in the Spurs system.
very good prediction, but how much time did hairston, temple, gee get in the series with suns....imo none....my guess is pop doesnt trust young players like hairston, gee and temple just because they are not experienced enough to take the pressure in a playoff series....so that forces the FO to go out get veterans for minimum or LLE....so my guess is spurs will still try to get some more depth via FA for the LLE, BAE and vet minimum.....
You really don't think there's anyone out there who has been good enough to stick on an nba roster for some number of years who both 1) would play for league minimum and 2) is capable of beating out enough guys in the Gee/Hairston/Temple/Mahinmi/Edwards/Jerrells club to be one of the 10-12 best players on this team? Not even 1?
I like that group of 9, but it's only a group of 9. If the remaining 6 spots are all going to be filled by d-league projects then that's not a very deep roster. Go look at the last 6 spots on the teams who were better than the Spurs and compare those groups of players to Gee, Hairston, Temple, Mahinmi, Richards and whoever you want as your 15th player. I think you'll find a noticable difference in the collective experience.Spurs have:
Parker
Ginobili
Jefferson
Duncan
Splitter
McDyess
Blair
Hill
Anderson
All being the main core that will be the main gist( no not that one) of the rotation.
I'm not saying I want a team where the end of the bench is nothing but league min vets. But I don't want one where the end of the bench is nothing but d-league prospects either. There's a balance in there that must be found. The way the Spurs roster looks today finding that balance is going to involve cutting loose 2 or 3 of the youngins and replacing them with 2 or 3 vets.
agree to CG. this 9 players are a great start. but you can't fill it up by adding 4-6 more young players without (or very little) NBA experience.
we need at least 2 more veterans. maybe 3. (PG, wing and big)
I suggest a cage match between James Jones (who you corner) and Dominic McGuire (whom the Omnipotent Blackjack will corner) and we'll see who comes out on top.
unless Spurs can get another SF in trade , I'd go with Korver, James Jones, or Rasual Butler as the back up SF/shooter
6 months ago, I would have agreed with the idea that it was important for Spurs to get a lot of vet depth.
Now, it isn't really the case.
Spurs made the playoffs with Duncan, McDyess, Bonner, Blair and Mahinmi at PF/C. I was real surprised to see them with only 3 proven bigmen and they did it by choice. They traded away Ratliff at the trade deadline and didn't sign a vet while they have the money since they signed young players (Gee, Temple and Jerrels).
I don't think Spurs will go as far as MaNu4Tres scenario but I also don't think they will fell the need to sign 2 or 3 vet. They could go with only one (a SF).
The Spurs also have the LLE that was not used last year. The Spurs should be using it this year for the back-up SF. Worst case scenario is that the Spurs re-sign Bogans or something.
Last edited by Chieflion; 06-26-2010 at 09:47 AM.
fine with me. I suggest it's 4 corners and there are some people who want to see Rasual Butler in another corner and it will be inevitable that at some point someone pulls Matt Barnes.I suggest a cage match between James Jones (who you corner) and Dominic McGuire (whom the Omnipotent Blackjack will corner) and we'll see who comes out on top.
6 corners. Matt Barnes, James Jones, Dominic McGuire, Rasual Butler, Keith Bogans and
Roger Mason Jr
Spurs do have the LLE, but it all depends how high the Spurs are on Hairston and Gee.
If Spurs are high on both of them, I don't see the Spurs signing a veteran on the wing for the minimum or LLE (Especially when this signing would be costing double the salary due to being over the cap; and if they are high on both Hairston and Gee then this signing would more than likely be very expendable; pretty dumb business move to add expendable pieces when finances are tight). *BTW my opinion is that they are high on them; not that it matters*
In the perfect world, we would all love the Spurs to attain a long defensive player at the 3, but with the limited resources available (after the assumed signing of Splitter) and with there being hardly any long defensive 3's who can shoot the 3 (that are available in the first place), I rather just go the internal growth route where the Spurs already have capable athletic defenders with a brand new motor so to speak.
If they aren't high on the two, then I can see the Spurs using the minimum or LLE on a wing in late July and early August as a security blanket for the wing situation. (But I don't think this will be the case).
May have already been answered - do the Spurs have the BAE this year?
Yes.
For those that may be curious, BAE and LLE refer to the same thing. An exception worth about 2M for a maximum length of two years. Like the MLE, it may be divided among two or more players.
If that's the final roster, we are impressively young. Only three players over 30.
here is what Outlaw can do against the Lakers, wasn't afraid to post up Kobe either
but like others have said he is young and will most likely get more then the LLE
sf?
lebron?
I think it would take both Hairston and Gee playing beyond awful in Summer League for the Spurs to sign a veteran wing.
A guy I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they signed is Novak. Cheap, young, good three-point shooter and would provide more depth and length at SF as well as a stretch four.
But he wouldn't really be in direct compe ion with Hairston and Gee. They'd be filling one role, he'd be filling another, even though they can all play SF.
As far as the Butler's and Jones' of the world, I think they'll steer clear of them now that they have Anderson. Had they drafted Williams, then I think it would be a different story.
I don't get the feeling the Spurs are sold on Hairston. The dude sat in IR for the playoffs in favor of three players with injuries who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. I cannot fathom how if the Spurs had any faith in this guy at all, they wouldn't have given him a run in that situation.
I would prefer Novak to Bonner coming back.
I just don't believe Gee and Hairston are good enough. The Spurs are going to need an athletic, defensive player with a little size who can put the ball on the floor AND hit some jumpers. I don't see how they get around that issue when they play big, athletic teams.
Maybe they're not entirely sold, but I do believe they're ready to give him a legit opportunity to crack the rotation. They've spent two years developing him after he played four years in college. A prospect is only a prospect so long, at some point you have to find out what you have and you can only do that by giving them an opportunity.
Him sitting in the playoffs I think was more about the fact that he got injured in the last game of the season, Hill started the playoffs hobbled and Temple finished the season playing well, so it made sense to have another ball handler available. Then as the playoffs went on, Pop probably figured there was no point in changing because neither was going to play anyway.
Hairston/Gee may not be good enough, but it's time to find out whether they are or not. If neither can cut it, then it's best to find out early in the season so that they know what they need going into the trade deadline.
Any thoughts on Ronnie Brewer?
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