Based on his play and accomplishments.
Based on his play and accomplishments.
According to the formula basketball reference uses, Gasol has a 44% chance as it stands, I'm not sure if he's accomplished internationally to the point where that changes, but if he makes another AS team and wins another le next year his chances shoot up.
I am not sure about the Pau in the HOF argument....It would take quite a bit more imo.
Rookie of the year, all-stars, all-NBA teams, FIBA WC, Silver medal in the Olympics, NBA championships, among other things.
If he isn't already in, he's pretty close.
Reaching? I'm just listing the things that Pau has made/won and that help his case for the HoF.
If Pau ends up getting in, it will be largely because of being on the Lakers and the multiple championships. He was basically a borderline all star before joining the Lakers. But the two NBA championships alone help his cause tremendously. I think the point might have been had he not joined the Lakers, he probably would be just a borderline all star, going a handful of times in his career, and not even being on the radar for the HOF, even with his international success.
As an individual player, I could make the argument that Chris Webber would deserve to be in the HOF more than Pau. And I don't think C-Webb is getting in. But the two championship teams he's now been a part of has changed things for Pau.
I grew up watching the Jordan Bulls, and I just miss the good old days where great teams were made the hard way, mostly via the draft.
The Spurs championship teams were basically the same way, Tony and Manu draft day steals, and a little luck obviously with Timmy, but still a drafted player, not some situation where great player A joins the same team as great player B so they can have super team C.
I don't agree with any of this. Sure he is testing the free agent waters, and the Cavaliers fans really have no say in his next career move. If he signs with the Bulls it will be because he feels it's a good fit for him and there is a winning tradition built in Chicago through Michael Jordan, which he would hope to build on. I think he has done all he can in Cleveland to try and bring that city an NBA championship. When he came into the NBA the Pistons were dominating the East, when they beat them and played the Spurs his supporting cast wasn't that great. Than Boston made a huge move and acquired Garnett and Allen and they were the East's elite, plus Orlando with Howard, there were better teams than Cleveland in the East and it showed despite the regular season success. If he signs with the Bulls that team has enough talent to win an NBA championship, if not next year than soon. Derrick Rose is an amazing player and LeBron has never played with such top talent before. The Cavaliers have done what they could and his team just didn't have what it took to win it all. He did all he could there to help, so if he moves on and sign with the Bulls or any other NBA team it's because he feels it's time to move on, it's his NBA career. If he resigns with the Cavaliers I don't think they will have enough to beat Boston or Orlando next season, with Chicago there is a huge chance he could get back to the NBA finals again.
Then the prefect fit would be with the Nets. Ok I know they sucked last year, but they have decent players and they do have a coach who at least did hold players accountable in the past, that's what I heard anyway. Now with that said I still think he stays with Cavs, but you know
I think they could be enough to beat Boston if he resigns with Cavs, but Orlando maybe not. If Lebron signs with Chicago, that'd be awesome, I'm not Bulls fan, but I enjoy watching them from time to time
Gasol 0-12 in play-offs prior to joining LA...spot on Luva he's a borderline Allstar and HOF'er at this point...Being around Kobe helps him a lot...
it doesn't matter where Lebron goes he showed all the real s that he won't or can't lead them to a le....Those s would be ing crazy to want to play with that dude...HE CAN'T LEAD PERIOD!!! and won't ever win but more meaningless regular season MVP's...He had no reason for that epic meltdown against Boston..that was all on him and his mama...
NOW, he does.
chicago will need a shooter. none right now, especially giving away hinrich for a bag of chips. lebron aint fillin that role pahtnah
Lets do the math together....
Kobe - Pau Gasol = missing playoffs in 2005 + 1st round exit in 2006 and 2007
Kobe + Pau Gasol = 3 straight finals appearances.
You see what I did there?
Dumbasses wow
Okay Lakaluva first of all you call Derek Fisher washed up? I can't even count how many crucial plays that guy made for L.A. in these playoffs. Yeah the man doesn't put up gaudy numbers, but he damn well puts his heart out there and wins games for L.A. You are dumb as .
I think Gasol showed his true toughness in Game 7 when Kobe went 6-24 and Gasol, not Kobe, was hitting more crucial buckets, including that tough hanger over KG and Sheed with 1:30 left on the clock.
Bynum was hurt but he sure as helped on the boards. The team who won the rebounding war won each game so STFU.
Oh and Artest? Best performance in Game 7, easily.
I'm a huge Kobe fan and protect him a lot, but you are absurd. Even Kobe himself always says he couldn't have done it without his guys. So what would your dumbass know?
Bingo...
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