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So, the other team gets a cap break for taking Dampier and cutting him, but also gets a lousy deal for a washed up player in return? Are the Mavericks targeting Gilbert Arenas?
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So, the other team gets a cap break for taking Dampier and cutting him, but also gets a lousy deal for a washed up player in return? Are the Mavericks targeting Gilbert Arenas?
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Marion may not be much of an offensive threat, but he's still a top-notch defender. In that regard, he's far from washed-up. Overpaid, likely, but he's not worthless.
I believe Jefferson was mentioned in this thread.
David Aldridge mentioned the Wolves shopping for Jefferson's replacement, preferably a defensive center. He specifically named our own Brendan Haywood as a possible target. So isn't it somewhat feasible that we could sign and trade Haywood for Jefferson. Maybe package up our favorite 5'10 Puerto Rican and ship him off with Brendan?
If that were to happen, I would then trade Damp for Okafor, his post-defense could prove valuable if Jefferson is as truly bad defensively as some have professed here, and start Roddy at the 2. Resign Damp after he is cut so we have some bulk and height at the C. We still retain Butler and our two young players to package at the deadline just in case.
Kidd / Roddy / Jones
Roddy / Terry / Jones
Butler / Marion / Stevenson
Dirk / Marion / Okafor
Jefferson / Okafor / Dampier
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Mavs could easily get Al Jefferson for the Damp contact. Don't know how good of a fit that would be, but talent wise, not a bad grab.
Don't think Jefferson would help us much.
I also can't believe Mav fan is trying to argue against Joe Johnson. That would be an ideal fit for the Mavs and give them exactly what they need. So now JJ's value is completely derailed because of one bad playoff?
He would not even need to be the main man because you have Dirk. Plus JJ, as he showed in this playoffs, is an underrated defender.
I would love JJ but mavs fans soured on him after his debacle in this years playoffs. I like him as a better fit than Iggy. A pick n pop with JJ would be killer
That is what I am saying. Why are Mavs fans devaluing him so bad just because of this one bad playoff? I don't get it. This is an ultimate buy low situation of everyone is doing the same thing.
if the whole point is to shoot less jumpers, Joe Johnson is definitely not the answer.
If you don't want Dallas to be a jump shooting team then you should want them to trade Dirk and rebuild. Any team built around Dirk is gonna be a jump shooting team.
It's also because he's 29 yrs old. We'll probably be grossly over paying him the last 3 years of his contract. I'd love him on our team, but only if he's a fall back option.
Goran's right to be honest.
Although i've been saying for years that Dallas can't win a championship with Dirk as their leader. IMO, they should just blow it up, but i know that the FO still thinks they can get by LA (
Every team in the league is a jump shooting team. Making jumpers is essential. Dallas just shoots too many. You can remedy that. Get a guy like Al Jefferson who can play down low and get easy buckets in the post. Get another slasher. The point isn't to eliminate jump shooting, it's not to replace the franchise player whose style of play took them to the Finals, it's to complement him with players who can play off his style.
There was a time when I agreed with this philosophy, but now I see it as completely ing ignorant and re ed.Goran's right to be honest.
Although i've been saying for years that Dallas can't win a championship with Dirk as their leader. IMO, they should just blow it up, but i know that the FO still thinks they can get by LA (
People of the "just blow it up" ilk assume that in 3-4 years the team will be rebuilt a la Portland. 99 times out of 100 it doesn't work like that in the NBA.
Most of the time when a team blows up it, they end up like Minnesota. Complete ass for years and years and years.
I'd rather the Mavs milk this for as long as they can, try to push the right buttons and hope they get lucky, than see them blow it up and watch them suck for another decade.
Dirk got Dallas to the finals taking it to the hole a lot more often than he does these days. Just look at the play that sent game 7 against San Antonio to overtime as example.
I agree Big Al would help them a ton offensively, but that front line is just too weak to have a championship level defense. They'd undoubtedly have a championship level offense, but defensively they'd come up short.
Not really. It's gone down some, but not a significant amount. The difference is that Josh Howard, Devin Harris, and Jerry Stackhouse attacked the basket alot more in 06 than they ever did after that. 06 was the last year J-Ho was primarily a slasher, and it shows. The year he fell in love with his jump shot was the year the Mavs started being a regular first round exit.
Dallas can easily contend as a "jump shooting" team built around Dirk and Joe Johnson, I think you're confusing taking too many jumpers with the wrong players taking jumpers. First off, JJ is one of the best post up shooting guards in the NBA, he just went into jumper mode for the playoffs because Mike Woodson is a lazy dumbass who doesn't hold him team accountable for settling.
If Dallas signs JJ, it has a positive domino effect. Caron Butler gets to move back to small forward where he can play more off ball as a slasher and focus more energy on D. JJ has the creating ability to basically play point while Roddy could play more as a scorer, and when Kidd is in the game JJ can act as the stud spot up shooter he was with Nash. Most importantly, JJ has the midrange game that isn't compromised when there are big bodies like Dampier and Haywood clogging the lane. If they were to sign JJ, trade for Gortat and resign Haywood I'd consider them a contender.
Butler and Beaubois could easily do that imo. Dallas really didn't utilize Butler effectively last season and they would if they had JJ. I'd still call LA the favorite over that team, but it has all the ingredients of a contender. Having Butler and SF and JJ at SG would also make Dallas an elite perimeter defensive team that could give Kobe fits.
I wouldn't cry if JJ was on the Mavs. The team would undoubtedly be better.
I just would rather get a low post guy is all.
I actually just realized, Al Jefferson could work perfectly for them if they were to get Ray Allen or Mike Miller for the MLE as a defender and spacer. I just think they need to do something about the SG position moreso than anything else.
Dirk and Jefferson would amount to the worst interior defense in the league. We should get Jefferson and package him in a 3 way.
and if they don't get lucky and keep losing at least you'd be ready for when they do suck. Good thinking.
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