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Sad we still don't have a legitimate backup PG, and some people here wanted to trade Tony...
I see starting the season with Manu starting and Hill off the bench. I still think we need to address our lack of depth at PG. We'll see what free agency brings...
temple o!
manu also in case
I think Parker/Anderson and Hill/Manu should be better than Parker/Manu and Hill/Anderson, but we all expect Parker, Manu and Hill to get more minutes than Anderson. Pop will try different combinations as usual. He will start a rookie if he thinks that's the best thing to do. (Blair started 23 games last season).
I think unless Anderson is simply amazing, it's gotta be Hill. He has more experience in the system than Anderson or any other wing they bring in, and it keeps Manu on the bench.
The other major plus is that it's a way to get Hill more minutes. The bottom line is that Hill is too good at this point to play just 10-15 mpg backing up Parker, and the fact that he can be on the court 35, sometimes 40+ mpg is a huge plus for the Spurs, especially as they try to control Manu's minutes. Just as bringing Manu off the bench is a tool to keep Manu's minutes limited early in the game, starting Hill is a good tool to increase his court time early in the game.
Manu was not that effective from the bench last year.
I think Manu needs to be the facilitator of the offense any time Parker isn't on the court. An early-season second unit of Manu, Anderson, Splitter, Blair, and Hairston would let Manu really run the show and have some people to develop chemistry with.
I think a best-case scenario for Anderson would be 18 min/game like Blair got this season. With 96 minutes up for grabs at the guard spots, I'd be happy to see Parker and Hill get around 30 each, Manu 25, and Anderson get the rest.
He was effective as a starter with Parker out though. You failed to mention that. Both of them playing together almost all the game makes the bench significantly weaker.
This.
One of the main reasons other than rest that Manu comes off the bench is so that he can get more touches, handle the ball more and play the pick and roll as the teams main facilitator. If he and Parker are in at the same time always, one of them will end up not doing much while the other runs most plays. I'd rather see Manu starting off the bench as usual, with Hill/Anderson/FA as the starting SG at first.
I don't see Hill as a permanent starter if he does start at the beginning. He should play around 15 minutes backing up Parker and another 15 minutes at the 2. Manu will get under 30 minutes a game I presume. And then there's RJ, I expect around 30mpg, like last season. This doesn't leave many minutes left for Anderson and a FA signing and other players like Hairston, Gee etc.. But injuries will play a part and every team encounters them, so that always gives a chance for players to start and get bigger minutes.
I agree but Manu could still play mostly with Hill. Also we might see some three guard line ups depending on opponents and who will be our backup sf (serious lack of depth there right now).
I'm a huge Pop fan, and think the folks on here that are constantly criticising him are nuts. That said, I have NEVER understood why, when Parker and Manu are both healthy, one isnt on the court at all times playing the role of primary ballhandler. One or the other Pop. Doesnt matter who, just dont let anyone else do it.
For that matter, I also thought that some combination of at least three out of Tim/Manu/Parker/Jefferson/Hill should always be on the court together, at least in the playoffs. The occassional hill/mason/bogans/bonner/blair lineups were absolutely brutal and unnecessary. But I digress...
LMAO. True, thank God a few of those guys aren't coming back!
!Sad we still don't have a legitimate backup PG, and some people here wanted to trade Tony...
This can't be overemphasized. People who think Hill is our future starting PG are crazy, in my opinion. While certainly not a pass-first PG, Tony looks like Jason Kidd in comparison with George's playmaking skills.
To answer the question: things still might change via trade or Free Agents. For now, I guess Hill would start, and Manu would lead the second unit.
I think Parker and Hill will start with Manu off the bench to lead the second unit and Anderson will see around 10 minutes
While I agree with you about the rest, I think Anderson will get 16-20 mpg, unless the Spurs add another free agent wing, or Hairston/Gee/Temple plays well enough to force Pop to give them minutes on a regular basis.
if Anderson gets 16 to 20 min regularly spurs have the steal of the draft IMO.
I think with Tony potentially coming into the season healthy and rested, he can return to a glimpse of that early '08 Parker, and if that's the case, Manu coming off the bench again is the best option.... '08 Tony was unstoppable, and starting games out with him and Hill attacking with speed is a good way to get out to early leads. Manu coming in and running what would be a strong 2nd unit, prevents a big drop off.
There's no reason Anderson can't see good minutes tho. I think he's a better player than he's getting credit for here. This isn't our typical end of the first round 'potential' pick, this guy is a proven player that could have easily gone in the lottery. He's gonna get his chances. I can definitely see him starting at the 2 some depending on his performance, health of the rest of the team, and Pop maybe balancing out the units more by using George with Manu off the bench.
Of course, that all sounds great, and could just be wishful thinking I guess... but what I do know, is that bringing in some LLE vet and starting him ala Bogans is NOT the answer... If that happens, we better get ready for a longggg season.
I think Ginobili will start, he's become the facilitator of our offense kind of like our acting point guard. Chemistry seems better when he is distributing the ball, he gets everybody involved and our offense seems less stagnant.
Manu needs to be rested, during the RS no way in he'll start, POs are another story but Pop priority will be to monitor closely Tim and Manu PT.
I disagree. We played our best basketball when he started for us and Parker came off the bench. Ginobili's time can always be monitored even if he starts....
..But I guess we are both en led to our opinions.....
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Well one thing is for sure... If Tony is with the team, which I hope he is, he's not coming off the bench.
I see what you're saying, but you can't just look at last year. Parker should be fully healthy this year, and Jefferson should be much more accustomed to the team... Add in however much George improves in the off-season, and that will make the 1st unit run a lot smoother. Healthy Parker along makes that unit work.
Manu has such a great value being able to come in and be the floor general and playmaker for the 2nd unit. George can't play that role, and neither can Tony, at least not nearly as effective. Manu makes it all work for us by being able to do that. And as always, it's not like he's gonna be sitting on the bench in crunch time or anything.
Ginobili came off the bench the last time because Finley was more productive as a starter. With Finley gone, there's no reason for the Spurs not to start him in my opinion. Turning a starter into a reserve to strenthen a weak bench is not a solution for a team that won't develop and trust young players.
Ginobili will probably continue to come off the bench, but it's a stupid thing to do. He and Parker should be starting, and Hill and Hairston/Anderson should ultimately be the second unit. Under no cir stances should Hill and Parker start together unless the Spurs get a legitimate backup point guard.
I think Pop will realize that he needs to speed up the development of his younger players. I expect Splitter to start very early or come into games early so Tim can get some relief. I expect Blair to eat up more minutes. Anderson will play with the second unit. Jefferson gets an early season look as a starter at SF and if that doesn't work out he becomes a salary dump at the trade deadline. The truth is we really don't have a clearcut choice. I think it will be SG by committee early in the season.
Remember that manu used to start until our bench featured so little offensive punch that his inclusion on the second unit was necessary. Now, with hill, blair, and hopefully dice (splitter starts ) & anderson, the second unit should be able to score some without manu .
That, combined with the fact that rj was completely dependent on manu for offense last year, and we're at the point where Tim is no longer the dominant force that he was, I think most of manu's time will come with the first team.
Well, Manu was 28-29 back then. His age is catching up with him and that's on Pops mind for sure.
I think Anderson will do better when Manu is on the floor. He seems to facilitate better to the young guys. I would start Parker and Hill. First out would be Parker for Manu. Second rotation would be Anderson for Hill. This way we keep Parker fresh for the 4th quarter. Also, if anyone gets hot I would leave them in a little longer till they start to get tired.
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