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Joe Johnson can help this team way more than Dampier can. I'm not about to argue that he isn't a flawed player, but if we can get him for less than the max, I'm all for it.
Dampier will be of no interest to Atlanta. Give them Butler and Beaubois and you make get a deal. Then Johnson can become the new Kidd.
Moving Dampier will only benefit a team that wants to get under the luxury tax. That cuts out most of the big time free agents.
Joe Johnson can help this team way more than Dampier can. I'm not about to argue that he isn't a flawed player, but if we can get him for less than the max, I'm all for it.
No, but his contract will be.
if roddy is involved with a joe johnson trade.........a riot should ensue.
Johnson is 29, so obviously his best days are behind him. It's really hard to gauge Roddy's potential. Compare his rookie stats to those of Marquis Daniels and tell me who had the better rookie campaign. I can see Roddy blossoming into an All-Star caliber player, but I can also see him being nothing more than a serviceable rotation player like Daniels or (once upon a time) Barbosa.
I think the Mavs would want to err on the side of caution when it comes to Roddy - youth, athleticism and an ability to penetrate into the lane are things the Mavs have been in short supply.
The thing about Roddy is he's barely 6 feet tall. You can't expect someone like Roddy to be able to create space for himself and get a quality shot off when the game is on the line. Joe Johnson has a great mid range game so he doesn't need a small ball lineup creating space for him and he can get quality shots late in close games. As much as Parker has always been important to the Spurs, it was Manu Ginobili taking all the big shots for San Antonio when they were winning championships. I'm basically saying that trading Roddy for JJ is a gamble Dallas should make.
no
joe gettin hyped up just like rashard.
No he's not, he's 6-2.
Whatever, my point is you can't expect someone in a point guard's body to be your main perimeter threat.
Pistons did just fine with Isiah/Dumars.
If Roddy is the key to getting Johnson, then I say no thanks. S&T Haywood bring in JJ then ship Damp for a big
lol siting an example over 20 years old, who has done it since then?
PS - If Dallas ever plays the defense Detroit did back then, you're right, Roddy can be their main perimeter threat.
It's been done.
I agree with the trade for Johnson. Especially if it includes Dampier.
Is there any real chance that Dirk doesn't re-sign?
lol @ sunfan, his team one year removed from missing the playoffs completely, they fluke their way into a WCF appearance and suddenly he has every answer for the Mavs.
lol acting like I'm trying to talk about the Mavs or implying that I think I know more because the Suns made the WCF. ST is dead right now and this is the best discussion going on.
why would the mavs even consider getting rid of their one player with lightning speed?
Answer this question:
Do you think there is a realistic chance that Dallas can be the first team since the late 80's Detroit Pistons to win a championship with a point guard as their main perimeter scoring threat? I'm not trying to talk about Dallas here, I'd say the same thing about any other team.
???
I hate PGs because the point guard position is by far the least important position in basketball and people act like it's the key to winning championships.
joe would look even slower than he does already if he were a mav.
As long as the Lakers are still playing basketball with the roster they have now, there is no answer.
You have to like the prospects of a pick n roll/pop with Dirk and JOhnson. A true SG with handles that can shoot anywhere on the floor. How do you guard that. I know he is about to turn 30 soon but that won't matter a few years from now when Dirk is 36-37
However, getting JJ for me depends what it takes to get him. the mavs for signing Marion to that deal. I would love the combo of JJ/Butler at the. 2 and 3 spot but the Matrix i doubt could be moved
Tbh Roddy has a pretty good shot but I doubt he can create space for himself and shoot off the dribble like JJ can.
Right now, LA is the team everyone else in the West should be trying to plan against, and how effective is Roddy's quickness gonna be in the half court against LA? It'll be the same as Russell Westbrook and Rajon Rondo having no trouble getting into the paint but then struggling to finish over trees. Joe Johnson's midrange game won't get weakened by all the length LA has in the paint. If any team is gonna beat LA it will be with a player who can get himself quality mid range shots.
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