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    Bernoullin' niggas! BUMP's Avatar
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    But what's the general consensus amongst Spur fans and their chances to win it all this season? Are you guys looking more to rebuild, or try to catch magic in a bottle by assembling hopefully a quick fix while Duncan still has a few years in him?

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    Reloading.

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    We have some young players that are good but not stars or anything.

    We have some good vet players.

    I think we have a longshot at a le next year if we are completely healthy during the playoffs. This year, our health was a problem at the end of the season and the playoffs-tony, manu and hill all either were recovering or were injured.

    Spurs will not rebuild, in that we will not blow the team up and start new, now or in the next few years.

    If we were going to do that, we would have probably not re-upped with manu. So, we ride out the years with Duncan, and then we are as good as we are.

    Thats how I see it.

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    Bump this in a about 4 months when the roster is more than 2/3 full, Bump.

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    This question will be easier to answer at the trade deadline during the season. Any major moves either way should have been made by then. IMO we're in the same boat as the Mavs. Just waiting to see what's available when the time comes.

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    I think the Spurs had a golden chance to win this season but RJ was a little got and we had no interior presence. Tim has shown he can still perform at a high level, as can Manu, and if Parker is healthy than you obviously can't count us out. If Hill and Blair continue to improve, I think adding Splitter will seriously put us in contention because we were a healthy Parker and decent big man away from the WCF. And the Lakeshow will be there again next year. Their main advantage is their size, and if the Spurs have Timmy/Splitter/Blair/Dyess/whoever else they sign to throw at Odom/Bynum/Gasol, then I think things are more even.

    We need some perimeter defense. I think adding Anderson was a good move because he can hit the open three, something we've been sorely missing, so at this point if everything pans out, and that's a big if, then most of holes are covered except for a perimeter defender.

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    Spurs still seem like a strong candidate for reaching the WCF but imo a healthy LA is still too tough for anyone in the West however Kobe and Bynum haven't really been healthy and they've got a lot of miles. Tiago should help address some of the defensive weaknesses the Spurs have, Hill and Blair should only get better, RJ and Parker will be in contract years, Parker should actually be healthy, and drafting Anderson seems like a step in the right direction.

    Looking good so far. Just also have to stay healthy which seems more likely than ever since Parker and Manu are resting and not having surgeries. The Spurs played the past 3 or so seasons without a healthy big 3 especially in the playoffs and yet still managed to take down the 2nd seed without even hitting a single three-pointer in one of those games. Incredible.

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    Reloading--the FO's doing just about everything they can to give Timmy one more run.

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    Definitely reloading. You can rebuild any time you want to, but you only get so many years of Tim Duncan.

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    It will depend a lot on Splitter and what kind of impact he will provide. I don't think even a healthy TP/TD/Manu at the top of their games is enough anymore. If Splitter can make a game changing difference on both ends of the floor right out of the gate then the Spurs can be contenders again.

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    The Spurs have the same main problem they've had for the past several years, and probably more so every year as Duncan gets older and older. They need a legit 6'10 to 6'11 athletic big to play next Tim Duncan. Dice can give the Spurs midrange jumpshooting and a nice experience veteran and Blair can do his work on the boards, but it comes down to being able to match-up against the front courts of the really elite teams. RJ wouldn't be such a big problem if the Spurs had that athletic big who could help defend the low post, freeing up Duncan somewhat and who can not only block some shots but be an interior presence to keep teams out of the paint in the first place.

    If the Spurs bring Splitter over and he plays as a lot of people expect, they could be right back in the mix even with Ginobili and Duncan not being the same players they were a few years ago.

    I still think that's more of a concern the RJ acquisition not working out.

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    With Splitter- reloading (keep your core and add the best possible pieces).

    Without Splitter- rebuilding gets accelerated (i.e. Parker gets shopped)

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    The Spurs have the same main problem they've had for the past several years, and probably more so every year as Duncan gets older and older. They need a legit 6'10 to 6'11 athletic big to play next Tim Duncan. Dice can give the Spurs midrange jumpshooting and a nice experience veteran and Blair can do his work on the boards, but it comes down to being able to match-up against the front courts of the really elite teams. RJ wouldn't be such a big problem if the Spurs had that athletic big who could help defend the low post, freeing up Duncan somewhat and who can not only block some shots but be an interior presence to keep teams out of the paint in the first place.

    If the Spurs bring Splitter over and he plays as a lot of people expect, they could be right back in the mix even with Ginobili and Duncan not being the same players they were a few years ago.

    I still think that's more of a concern the RJ acquisition not working out.
    +1

    although the Spurs desperately need 3-point shooting, so i'm not sure which is more important.

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    Looking at things right now I'd say reloading but keeping their eyes on rebuilding options at the deadline. With the FA crop out there the balance of power can shift over night in the coming months so that seems the smart way to play it.

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    Even if you are the Lakers, it takes all the exact right pieces falling in the exact right places in order to even contend for a le. And then if you enter the playoffs as a contender, things can still happen. Look at last year's Cavs. A championship is as much about luck, as it is about skill. (An analogy can be made to scoring a goal in soccer.)

    In that light, I think going into the season the Spurs will certainly have a solid foundation from which a championship team could easily come, if the pieces fall in the right way. So do the Lakers, Mavs, Suns, Magic, Celtics, and depending on free agency a few other teams as well.

    Going into the off-seasons in other championship-producing years I didn't think they had it either. We'll see how it goes.

    (Or, if you wanted a one-sentence, way too general answer answer: I really like the team, but I in no way at this point expect to see them in the Finals.)

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    Reloading. We had to give significant minutes to Mason, Bogans and Bonner last season and still was compe ive. We already drafted a Mason replacement. Splitter would be a great addition and Blair and Hill should improve.

    On the other hand I'm not convinced Jefferson will improve much and I don't see us being a great defensive team like in our championship seasons. That's what concerns me the most and I feel that we miss at least one (defensive) piece of the puzzle to be considered serious contenders.

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    Reload. Hopefully the front office can do something creative with some of the parts that didn't contribute much last year.

    But the Spurs need stoppers to win championships and sadly those days seen to be gone. Splitter might help some but they really miss a lockdown player.

    And RJ, if he sticks around, needs to memorize this:


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    Magic in a bottle.

    Spurs will have plenty of time to rebuild if they want after Duncan is gone, if they choose to do so. But I'm pretty sure they are readying for one last mad dash before he hangs 'em up.

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    It looks to me like the Spurs are rebuilding on the fly. Last season the Spurs reloaded and fired blanks. With all the new young talent that is coming into San Antonio, it is hard to deny that the Spurs are rebuilding for the inevitable retirement of Duncan. With the way the draft has been going for the Spurs, it looks like reloading, but I think in hindsight it will prove to be a rebuilding process.

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    le this year...and next if Tony does not get greedy.

    He deserves 75-80% of a max deal if he is going to play international ball, which it seems he would once he gets his deal done. He'll want the max because there will be some team willing to pay it.

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    Right now that is very hard to answer.

    As long as Duncan is around, Im sure the team's motive is to win now.

    Splitter is still a question mark on coming over. We dont know if RJ will still be having trouble fitting in next year. We dont know if Dice will even be effective next season.

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    I think the Spurs have a decent chance if the following things happen:

    1) Spurs sign Splitter
    2) Phil Jackson retires
    3) Celtics lose Ray Allen

    The Spurs will definitely need some help to rise to the very top of the league again.

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    I also think this decision will be made at the trade deadline. After this year, I just cant see the Spurs paying Parker with a raise, in addition to someone they get through a sign-and-trade using RJ at the deadline. Frankly, I would rather not trade either, just let RJ walk, and re-sign Tony to a long-term deal around the same time of year we gave Manu his extension this year.

    I think at the deadline, one of 3 things happens: 1) The Spurs use RJ as an expiring contract to acquire a fourth star, probably signaling that Tony won't be resigned 2) The Spurs trade Tony (and possibly RJ too), completely reshaping the team with either new talent or youth and picks, or 3) RJ stays, meaning Tony will likely be resigned and one of our young players will take over at SF next year.

    I prefer option 3, myself, but can see the Spurs going with one of the others if they feel the team is not a contender.

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    This question will be easier to answer at the trade deadline during the season. Any major moves either way should have been made by then. IMO we're in the same boat as the Mavs. Just waiting to see what's available when the time comes.
    Mavs are not just waiting to see whats available when the time comes. They are hard pressing to get another superstar and have major trading pieces. Spurs are limited unless they want to split the big 3.

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