Dallas Mavericks off-season thread

[clambake]

Everybody knows he's not going anywhere. If other teams thought Dirk might actually leave Dallas, the line would form to the left for his services.

nobody thinks he'll even try to make contact with others?

[Findog]

nobody thinks he'll even try to make contact with others?

Because of the age difference (he's 32, guys like Bron, Bosh, Wade and Amare are all in their mid-twenties), every team with cap space and looking to sign a marquee free agent has Dirk as probably Plan D or E. So a team like the Knicks is going to sign Dirk after Bron, Wade, Bosh and Amare turn them down, whereas to the Mavs he is Priority #1? And when the Knicks can't offer him as much money as the Mavs?

Dirk is only leaving the Mavs to go to a better situation. If Bron recruits Dirk as his #2 guy to play with him in Chicago or New York, that might change things. Otherwise, 99.9% certain he's coming back to the Mavs.

[monosylab1k]

nobody thinks he'll even try to make contact with others?

Well Dirk is obviously a lot more low key than any of the other big name attention s. he's not going to twitter all day about his FA status, or have World Wide Wes tell the media 18 different stories a day.

I don't think he has any intentions of leaving Dallas. Jason Kidd said Dirk just wants the Mavs to "wine and dine" him, I guess just show that they're committed to winning for the rest of his career and that they want to compensate him accordingly.

If Mark Cuban does the unthinkable and tries to give him an insulting lowball offer, that's the only way I see Dirk walking away from Dallas. But that won't happen. The Mavs front office will show him how much they appreciate him, give him a max contract and a no trade clause, and this will be over with.

[badfish22]

We shouldn't have to trade Roddy to get Johnson. that.

Also, there has been a lack of Lebron dreamin in this thread

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...=owners-100628 (with vid)

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba...ory?id=5334365

http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/dalla...-lebrons-table

[clambake]

We shouldn't have to trade Roddy to get Johnson. that.

[badfish22]

Is the proposed trade Roddy+Damp for Johnson?
Maybe if there were absolutly no other good offers for Damp I would consider it. But our best trade chip and our best young player (maybe our third best player overall) for a guy who looked like Jason Terry in the playoffs last year is a bit much.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Wow, he looked like Jason Terry as the #1 option defenses were keying on, Jason Terry looked like Jason Terry missing a bunch of open shots. Why are people acting like the 2010 playoffs are how Johnson has played his entire career?

[badfish22]

Wow, he looked like Jason Terry as the #1 option defenses were keying on, Jason Terry looked like Jason Terry missing a bunch of open shots. Why are people acting like the 2010 playoffs are how Johnson has played his entire career?

I said a few pages back that I would love Johnson here. But Roddy+Damp is too much to give up for him, imho.

[BUMP]

So we can pencil you in as a dumb who wants to see the Mavs suck for a decade?

I'm ing sick of these re ed Mavs fans who didn't even follow the team in the 90's thinking that blowing it up is a good option. Blowing it up doesn't guarantee that a solid rebuilding process will happen. Blowing it up just guarantees your team will suck for an extended period, and if you're lucky it won't be more than 3-4 years.

If you actually followed the Mavericks through the 90's there's no way in you want to see them blow this up. This is heaven compared to that era.

I give up in this thread. Every time I post i get a response like this

Its a shame Mono isn't the gm of the Mavs, otherwise we would have atleast 3 rings right now

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I said a few pages back that I would love Johnson here. But Roddy+Damp is too much to give up for him, imho.

What exactly is it you expect Beaubois to become that makes him a deal breaker for someone who was a 3rd all NBA guard this year and has made the all star game the last 4 years?

[monosylab1k]

I give up in this thread. Every time I post i get a response like this

don't post ignorant ass post-2000 mavs fan bull then.

[clambake]

What exactly is it you expect Beaubois to become that makes him a deal breaker for someone who was a 3rd all NBA guard this year and has made the all star game the last 4 years?

he has the potential to be a real dagger.

johnson has the potential to be just another mav standing around.

[badfish22]

Its not just about Roddy, its about Damp as well. Damp can turn into a number of good players (jefferson, gay). Is Johnson worth Roddy plus another good player? I don't think he is. Like I said earlier, if the Dust chip brings no other good offers I would consier it.

[monosylab1k]

I would do a DUST for Deng trade before a DUST/Roddy for Johnson trade.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Is Johnson worth Roddy plus another good player?

Yes but that's an opinion I don't expect any Mavs fan on this site to agree with. There are only so many complete shooting guards in the NBA who can shoot off the dribble or catch, create for themselves and others, and defend well. There are a bevy of NBA players with a skill set comparable to Beaubois'.

[BUMP]

don't post ignorant ass post-2000 mavs fan bull then.

everytime somebody posts a different view than yours, you respond like we insulted your family or something. And i'll be the first to say i'm not the most knowledgable fan. I can always accept different views.

FinDog made a logical point that was different than mine earlier without throwing a tantrum. What a concept!

[Muser]

Johnson or Deng won't put the Mavs over the top, I don't know if there is any realistic trade that could.

[MavDynasty]

2 sources say that Dwyane Wade has the Mavs, Knicks, and Bulls on a 3-team interview list.

http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=3187

if Whistle comes to Dallas, how ironic.

[BUMP]

If we have a shot at Wade, everything I said about blowing up the team

[Ghazi]

Yes but that's an opinion I don't expect any Mavs fan on this site to agree with. There are only so many complete shooting guards in the NBA who can shoot off the dribble or catch, create for themselves and others, and defend well. There are a bevy of NBA players with a skill set comparable to Beaubois'.

Mavs need all the depth and talent they can get in order to compete for a championship. Losing Beaubois and adding Johnson may not be enough... having both and therefore relegating Terry to his rightful 15-20 minute role could be enough.

Although, adding Johnson would really reduce JET's role anyway. but I digress.

IMO the Mavs need to add talent to reduce the roles of Terry, Kidd, and Marion. Good role players, not good 30-35 minute players.

[D-Wade #3]

Good God Mav fans are dumb. They wouldn't trade Roddy B for Johnson, I guess that skull ing in 06 took a major toll on their already re ed asses

[MiamiHeat]

If we have a shot at Wade, everything I said about blowing up the team

well, i remember wade saying that the owner and management is very very important to him.

Wade said that team loyalty to players and how they treat their players now and when they retire is important to him, so he notices that Mark Cuban treats his guys right and is very loyal and all that

plus, Mavs arent scared to spend money to win les...

but the Knicks? who the F wants to play for No defense D'antoni?

i would suspect the knicks need to fire D'antoni if they expect to land any big star. everyone knows defense blah blah championships.

[Ghazi]

Good God Mav fans are dumb. They wouldn't trade Roddy B for Johnson, I guess that skull ing in 06 took a major toll on their already re ed asses

Beaubois may be a better player than Johnson in as early as 2-3 years...

[Ghazi]

also dok i hate to give credit to cpwhistles gutless quitting asss but if hes not hurt Johnson doesnt make all-NBA 3rd team.

So really he's not an all-NBA caliber player, just an all-star caliber player.

[Basketballgirl25]

Beaubois may be a better player than Johnson in as early as 2-3 years...

he could, and then again he might not. This year will prob be the better year to judge since he should be playing more mins