These young men lol were probably high-fiving each other and hoping that teacher gives them detention.
This. As everyone else in this thread said - she boosted their ego's. Among the peers these kids had they were Kings.
These young men lol were probably high-fiving each other and hoping that teacher gives them detention.
well obviously if you think bringing up the whole "if these were girls and she were a man" is bull , you must think that having sex with underage boys is less egregious than having sex with underage girls. Otherwise you'd be asking for the same treatment for this woman as they give males who commit statutory rape. Since that is what we're talking about (statutory rape) consent has everything to do with it. So yeah, you didn't mention it, but that's what you're talking about.
What exactly are you saying here? you don't believe she committed a crime? you don't think she should get prison time? what?
I agree that laws aren't tailored for specific cases, they are constructed with a broad spectrum of criminal behavior in mind and you don't make exceptions simply because "the boys might have enjoyed it" or for the fact that she was a decent looking woman and these were 14 year old boys.So you agree she should be getting 10 years in prison and 15 years for giving two boys the times of their life and not hurting them in anyway, in fact, probably reinforcing positive self-esteem?
I agree that she should be treated exactly the same way man in her position would be treated, and you know EXACTLY how that would be.
You can say you feel sorry for her, but to say that its a travesty to convict a sexual predator is so indicative of blatant double standard its beyond bull . How come I don't see any of you mofo's protesting "To catch a predator"?
It is, there are huge physiological/psychological differences
You tend to assume a lot of things, don't you?you must think that having sex with underage boys is less egregious than having sex with underage girls.
I never mentioned the treatment in relation to men or women. You're the one who brought up the whole "if this were a man/they were girls" BS out of nowhere, because you don't understand why myself and others consider it a travesty.Otherwise you'd be asking for the same treatment for this woman as they give males who commit statutory rape.
Since that is what we're talking about (statutory rape) consent has everything to do with it. So yeah, you didn't mention it, but that's what you're talking about.are you really saying these boys didn't consent to getting their s sucked and ing on her face a few times?
In reality, consent has nothing to do with statutory rape (at least, in this example). Age does. Which hasn't been mentioned in your arguments. Because they were under age, they aren't legally permitted to consent to face ing their teachers. But in reality, they consented and loved every second of it.
I'm saying it's a travesty she has to go to jail for 10 years for sucking some fully-sexually-developed males off.What exactly are you saying here? you don't believe she committed a crime? you don't think she should get prison time? what?
I agree that laws aren't tailored for specific cases, they are constructed with a broad spectrum of criminal behavior in mind and you don't make exceptions simply because "the boys might have enjoyed it" or for the fact that she was a decent looking woman and these were 14 year old boys.
I agree that she should be treated exactly the same way man in her position would be treated, and you know EXACTLY how that would be.
You can say you feel sorry for her, but to say that its a travesty to convict a sexual predator is so indicative of blatant double standard its beyond bull . How come I don't see any of you mofo's protesting "To catch a predator"?
wtf kind of tangent are you going off on? No one gives a . If you're male, you know what I'm talking about, when I say those boys enjoyed it and it's a travesty she has to go to jail for 10 years over this.
I think it's more a travesty treating both sexes as if they're the same. A 14-16 year-old boy is supposed to want to everything in sight. Don't like it? Blame natural selection. I have a hard time believing teenagers who constantly talk to their friends about how bad they want to bang the teacher are being exploited when they get their fantasies fulfilled. I sense a lot of coaching from angry parents.
It really shouldn't make a difference when it comes to gender(I know society does have a double-standard, but it shouldn't apply, TBH)..these people are all TEENAGERS, they aren't little ing kids..a 14-year old is fully aware of the functions of the penis and vagina..
Sending somebody to jail for 10 ing years for making somebody orgasm is just beyond ridiculous..these guys probably bragged to all their friends, they were probably looked at as Gods among their peers..sending somebody to jail should be reserved for much, much, much worse incidents than this..I'm actually saddened by this..
I realize a 31-year old man would be looked at in a different light, but it doesn't really change my point..I'm against most laws that involve statutory rape, it's honestly a ridiculous law in these cases..
I was ing at around 14, so were a lot of people I knew, we were all fully aware of what was going on, we weren't drugged during this..I only wish I had a sexy teacher to shatter..
yeah, I tend to do that when people beat around the bush and don't state what the think right away
Then explain yourself, please.I never mentioned the treatment in relation to men or women. You're the one who brought up the whole "if this were a man/they were girls" BS out of nowhere, because you don't understand why myself and others consider it a travesty.
I'm not talking about whether they wanted to do it or not. I'm talking about whether they were legally able to consent.are you really saying these boys didn't consent to getting their s sucked and ing on her face a few times?
That's exactly what I'm talking about and you know it. The law says those boys were not above the age of consent. Having sex with a kid whose below the age of consent is a crime whether it be a boy or a girl, whether the perpetrator is a man or a woman, attractive or ugly. Gender and attractiveness DON'T enter the picture. So what I'd like to know is what is our point here?In reality, consent has nothing to do with statutory rape. Age does. Which hasn't been mentioned in your arguments. Because they were under age, they aren't legally permitted to consent to face ing their teachers. But in reality, they consented and loved every second of it.
I'm saying you're full of . What the does fully-sexually-developed male mean? some males develop sexually by the age of 12. What then? Age of consent takes mental maturity in mind, not whether or not a 14 or 16 year old is able to everything in sight.I'm saying it's a travesty she has to go to jail for 10 years for sucking some fully-sexually-developed males off.
yeah, my bad. Here I was thinking you could stop thinking with your long enough to understand the reason behind the need to apply the law impartially. I'm male, I know what you're saying and I think its a bunch of crap.
wtf kind of tangent are you going off on? No one gives a . If you're male, you know what I'm talking about, when I say those boys enjoyed it and it's a travesty she has to go to jail for 10 years over this.
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Hey, I said it before, I would have definitely done her if she was my teacher and approached me.
but there's a bigger picture here. There's an overriding need to be impartial when applying the law. I don't see people getting all riled up when men get convicted for having sex with underage girls. That seems to me that society still views boys as being stronger in a sense than girls. As if having sex with a 14 year old boy is making him a favor but having sex with a 14 year old girl is abusing her innocence.
1) you're taking my comments way too seriously, I couldn't give a less
2) it is a travesty, according to me, if yuo don't like that well that's not my problem, is it? You keep acting like I haven't insinuated why it's a travesty, when I fully have. They are both sexually developed and "personally" consented to it. You wanna throw the book at me, go ahead, it doesn't change the reality of the situation. She doesn't deserve 10 years in prison for this, that simple, especially concerning the 16 year old counts.
ok, my bad. I thought you were taking the issue seriously.
edited more in, to fully appraise the situation to your liking![]()
Fair enough
So you guys think it's okay at 14. What if the boys were 12? 10? Still okay?
The point is that you have to draw a line on when it's not okay. The state draws that line for statutory rape at 16 (or 17 or whatever it is in your state).
I'm just curious where you guys think the line should be? Should it be different for males/females?
14 is where I would draw the line, if I had to pick a number..I feel like that's a reasonable age..
Otherwise, I would treat it like a normal case, instead of just looking at ages and listening to the parents..if there is proof that it was consensual all the way through, why not look at it like that?..if the younger party admits to it or if it's proven(through messages, phone calls, appearances, whatever), why continue to punish somebody simply because of their age?..
A teenager isn't going to suffer from having sex that they consented to IMO..people treat this too much like actual rap, and like somebody actually brainwashed these people to have sex with them, as if they don't understand what they're doing..these aren't 6-year olds..
I wonder how some of the posters in here would feel if it was their 14 year old that was in that situation..
If this was a 31 year old man having sex with 14 year old girls,
and he received 10 years,
ALL OF YOU WOULD BE GOING "That's it?!??! FRY HIM, CUT HIS BALLS OFF, CASTRATE HIM, PUT HIM ON NATIONAL SEX RAPER LIST, GIVE HIM LIFE!!!"
ing hypocrites, dude.
Anyway, my problem with this is that the teacher is in a position of trust and guardianship over the students.
Any teacher can abuse students. Blackmail with bad grades, threaten the student with detentions to get them in trouble with parents, or threaten to tell their parents what they did in school so they can get grounded, I AM NOT SAYING THIS WOMAN DID THIS, I am talking in general.
and do all of this as blackmail for sex. and doing it to a 14 year old is even more ed up, because they still aren't strong yet and don't know about the world yet.
So imo, teachers, parents, parental guardians, police officers, all of these people with positions of influence should not be allowed to have sex with anyone under 18 yrs old, or even 16 yrs old I guess since most of the world like England and everyone else has the age of consent at 16.
but still, you cannot have laws for one gender differently than the other gender. you can't do that, unless you want to open up a can of worms and begin to stereotype genders and go all across the board. Woman can't have X job, because they are X reason, etc...
It's just ing sad that a 31 yr old man would get his nuts cut off for being horny with a 14 yr old, but a woman does the same thing and it's a travesty.
What the ? Being horny is part of the human condition, but we have laws and they are for both genders.
A 14 year old male (high school freshmen age) would have the mental for ude to understand the situation and the "experienced" female teacher would know how to take care of the young man. Reverse the sexes, and obviously girls at that age are really stupid and haven't figured out the emotional or physical consquences. Young /old males don't have that problem.
If the 14-17 year old males were "raped", repeatedly, by a MALE band teacher or priest, it's difficult to assume they felt totally helpless in the situation either. You don't continue letting things be put in your butt cuz you're afraid, totally not worth it.
Also, the reason for those corn rows in the teacher's prison hair is because she's someone's already. She moves fast, and if I was one of the boys I'd feel bad. Maybe that's how these women get in trouble? Other boys get jealous when the lucky boy brags about getting his wet with a young female teacher. STOP SNITCHING!!
Judges lectures are always pointless in my experience. Just give out the ing sentence, and get off your high horse.
Also, the chick typing in front of the judge in the video is Jabba like tbh.
Man if only Miss Zablocki was like this when I was in high school. I'd gladly have her go to jail for me.
anyone who is a male here wanted to get their wet at 14 anyone who says otherwise is a liar, a , or a female. Also for those people saying "if it was a guy, you'd be calling for his head" That's onesided, if she was an ugo we'd be calling fot her head too.
If I had a daughter that ed her teacher, I would be embarrassed and disappointed in my parenting skills..
Of course I'm just talking right now, I don't have a daughter, so I don't know it would change my feelings towards this..
The entire point of this thread should be that these teenagers knew what the they were doing, that's pretty obvious..so sending somebody to jail for 10 years for consensual sex is ridiculous, and that's the only thing that matters here..
All the old/fat/ugly teachers must have retired from when I was in school![]()
I actually did that here once. It wasn't very well received.
So much talk about the boys, none about the teacher. What kind of ed up 31 year old adult would wanna a 14 year old?![]()
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