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Once the writing is on the wall (if it ever is) the Cavs will S&T him to wherever he wants to go.
Right now they are posturing, as they should be.
Just look at Colangelo & the Rapz.
Well, from the Suns perspective, they gave away an All Star caliber player who was instrumental in turning around the Mavs, whereas they had to trade away a wifebeater because they were worried about what his continuing presence would do to season ticket sales. Suns should've won that trade, but as it turns out, the Mavs were the ones who ended up winning it.
Once the writing is on the wall (if it ever is) the Cavs will S&T him to wherever he wants to go.
Right now they are posturing, as they should be.
Just look at Colangelo & the Rapz.
Hey if I could go back and reverse that trade I'd do it, but the Suns had no way of knowing Kidd would become a complacent asshole who refused to get better and beat his wife. Trading Kidd because he was too lazy to work on his jumper was one thing, trading someone because of a criminal record for Stephon Marbury of all people ranked right up there with some of the best Colangelo family ups. It only took Marbury a month to get a D.U.I. in Phoenix.
well, if you let a city of dumb s dictate how you run your organization then you just become no better than they are. S&T is coming (if LeBron leaves at all).
Yet they're savvy enough to know LeBron wants to leave and they're pissed at him for it. Yet not savvy enough to know that the Cavs could conceivably send him to the West and get something back that aids their rebuilding process, or watch him walk to a division rival for nothing. These are mutually exclusive concepts regarding the state of the Cleveland fanbase. They can't be both.
JoeTait is pissed at him, the average Cleveland fan I'm guessing still loves Lebron and is on his nuts. Using JoeTait to gauge the average Cleveland fan is like using me to gauge the average Suns fan.
What does Dallas have that would actually interest the Cavs to help Lebron leave? All this why would they let him go for nothing when if they do a S&T with Dallas they are still left with nothing.
You're late to the party
Really?
If they don't do a S&T LeBron walks.
If they do a S&T with Dallas they get Dampier's contract (which they can either renounce and go back to zero salary or trade to a team that wants to be under the cap that is getting rid of a high priced star) as well as draft picks and money. Also, if CLE was so inclined they could ask for Caron Butler (expiring contract) and ask Dallas to take their most expensive and overpriced player. Also, they could ask for Roddy Beaubois.
So to summarize:
Let LBJ walk = Nothing
S&T to Dallas = Damp contract which can either be renounced or moved forward for a player that makes up to 13+ million dollars (Al Jefferson perhaps), Caron Butler (expiring contract, as well as a decent player), get rid of one or more crappy contracts, Roddy Beaubois, draft picks, cash.
All of which would leave them in a far better position than they would be if they let him walk.
Jamison has 2 years at $14 mil per year left. Mavs will take him back if they get James.
I'd more than welcome Trashcan Man back in the fold.
If that were to happen then it's even better for Dallas with Jamison coming in (I still think it has no chance, just speaking hypothetically). Their 2004 season was a mess for the most part but Jamison was a good fit as 6th man and he'd give them a lot of versatility as the 6th man now. They could go with a small lineup of Dirk at C and Jamison at PF, Dirk would get to rest a lot more in the regular season, and it would no longer be required of Jason Terry to create offense for the 2nd unit.
Mavs got greedy back then. . . they made a great trade for Antawn. . then thought. . . " it, let's go get Antoine Walker too!"
BOOOOOOOM, CRASH, SMASH!!!
The sound of the season going to .
Like I said either way they get nothing. Damp's contract doesn't really do much being that he is not on the books anyways. So basically your asking them to give you a superstar for nothing. Yes, Roddy is nothing compared to Lebron.
They were unloading Raef LaFrentz's contract on Boston. They turned around the next year and turned Fatoine into Jason Terry. I'd say that move worked out for them.
How much difference is there in letting lebron walk and getting damp in a trade then cutting him?
I think you are letting your Mavs hate blind you.
Dampier's contract can immeditately be turned around to a team that is looking to cut cap space. Meaning, teams like G State, NOH, Minny, etc. For instances, The Wolves said they are looking to get rid of Jefferson. The Damp contract can be sent to them for Jefferson.
Plus, your little jab at Roddy is stupid. Evweryone is nothing compared to LBJ. Roddy is a young stud though.
Also, getting rid of a ty contract for an expiring one in Caron is not nothing.
Again, stop being so damned emotional and think through these things. I personaly don't see LBJ coming to Dallas but not because of CLE not wanting to S&T, it'll be because LBJ wants to go elsewhere.
Not much, but the picks and prospects that come with it our the real kicker. Plus they prob. would want him to be in the west.
However, what about getting Caron (an expiring) and getting rid of your tiest contract in the process?
Plus, what if you actually keep Dampier and trade him to a team that is looking to get under the cap? How would Al Jefferson or Monta look? Not as good as LBJ but it's damn sure better than nothing.
Depends. But in order for it to make any sense the mavs would have to eat other contracts to make the financial savings worth while.
I agree cle should s&t if bron is leaving, but mav fans are overrating the talent factor from a cle standpoint.
The Mavs don't have a lot of compelling talent to offer the Cavs, but from Cle's standpoint, you want to slash salary and get rid of a bunch of overpaid vets if LeBron leaves. We'll take Jamison off their hands. We'll give them the one year left on Butler's contract, who also has on-court value if they want to resign him. Dallas can really help if they want to start a full-fledged rebuilding movement. And they can use Damp's contract as a trade exception for one year if they want to go out and get another young star to build around, like Al Jefferson or some such.
That's what I said they would do. And that's something that MIA & CHI can't do in a S&T. So in actuality if it was a choice between CHI, MIA, & DAL for a S&T the Cavs would want to do a S&T deal with Dallas just to get the cap savaings that Miami & Chicago cannot provide.
Emotional? The Spurs just beat the Mavs so there's nothing you could suggest that is blinding me besides not being a Mavs homer. Only a delusional homer thinks S&T with Dallas makes sense. Roddy is nice don't get me wrong but helping your superstar leaving and really only coming out the deal with Roddy is stupid and not worth the time.
just curious......how is getting nothing worth the time?
You're a ing idiot then. I said myself that the likelyhood is slim. But if you can't find the logic in it and follow that a S&T would be benefical to the Cavs if they had to lose LBJ then you're a complete and ing idiot and you don't deserve another second of my time.
Don't waste your time on him, he's ing dumb.
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