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lol Carmella
Knicks praying right now that Carmella wont sign an extension. Would be a backup plan if they just can get a Boozer/Lee/Amare this offseason.
Had the exact same thought.
Knicks 2010 FA Plans:
Plan A: LeBron and Bosh for the max
Plan B: Amare and JJ for the max
Plan C: Boozer and Gay for the max
Plan D: Not sure, but I think it involves TMac
lol Carmella
Atlanta is out of its mind.
New York can have a ty team this year and go for Melo next year.
Denver>>>NY
Melo would be re ed to leave Denver for the Knicks.
Nah, New York is ed. Melo leaving Denver is still a long shot. And if they're smart, they won't over pay for second tier talent like Boozer, Amare, Gay, etc this year. They better start stockpiling draft picks and build from the ground up like Seattle/OKC did. And in a couple years, they'll be in better shape than some of these other teams who s ed out for players that didn't deserve it.
We'll see though, they'll probably blow their wad just like everybody else.
The Hawks could just not sign a 30-year-old All Star to a six year deal that only franchise players should get. Or they could screw themselves over by giving Joe Johnson money he isn't worth.
Damn Hawks are ing stupid if they do sign Johnson for 6 years max. He has yet to take the Hawks to a conference finals, he's proved a championship team cannot win with him being the 1st or 2nd option, he would be a nice 3rd or 4th option though. Way overpaid.
So you think letting him leave and becoming a bottom feeder is a better option? Again, what would be a better alternative?
As opposed to not signing his ass so he won't kill their chances of getting any worthwhile free agents in the future? Of course.
Not signing his old ass, because he clearly isn't worth $20 million for 50 wins and another second round sweep.Again, what would be a better alternative?
Which worthwhile free agents can Atlanta get in the near future? When the have the Atlanta Hawks ever been able to draw free agents? Why do people act like a team in Atlanta's situation can just as easily sign Lebron James instead of Joe Johnson?
redzero, by this logic, I assume you want the Hornets to get rid of CP3 since his contract isn't worth being a borderline playoff team?
are you comparing cp3 the best point guard in the NBA to joe johnson
lol missing my point completely
Be specific. What can the Hawks do if they let Joe Johnson leave? What better options are out there? What better way can they use that cap room? As far as I'm concerned, holding onto the assets you have is a better route than becoming a bottom feeder and hoping you're lucky enough to draft the next franchise player. It's baffling why people talk about the cap room Joe Johnson is gonna take up as if they have a way better way of using it that they're turning down.
Even though you werent talking to me. Chris Paul is a top 3 point guard and DESERVES the max, Joe Johnson is a star not a superstar and therefore does NOT DESERVE the max. It would be stupid for the Hawks to give Johnson the max, because he is just a choke and hasnt been able to get the Hawks anywhere but the playoffs.
Joe Johnson has gotten the Hawks just as far as CP3 has gotten the Hornets.
Look at CP3's age, 6 years from now Hornets wouldent regret their decision to give him the MAX, hawks would for the last 3 years of Johnson's contract. Johnson has had more helf in horford crawford smith bibby and what did cp3 have? west chandler and peja?
lol and CP3 has shown an ability to take a team to a championship? Joe Johnson turned 29 yesterday so cut the wrong side of 30 bull out. Chris Paul is 25 and has knee problems. There isn't a giant gap in age. Saying CP3 is a franchise player is just funny.
How many players in the last 20 years have proven capable of leading a team to a championship? The concept of not resigning Joe Johnson so you can cling onto the tiny chance that you might luck into one of the very few players who can take a team to a championship makes no sense.
First, I don't think anybody in the league is really worth max. It does a team no good to be paying one player a large portion of the salary.
Second, a 30-year-old All Star whose best years are behind him, is not worth $20 million dollars a year for six years. Period. He will only get worse from here on, so we don't even know how much he would benefit the Hawks in the long run. The Hawks could easily become bottom feeders with a poison contract in the next few years.
Sure, Atlanta might not be a big attraction for free agents, but it is just plain stupid for a small market team to give somebody like Joe Johnson to such a ridiculous contract. Two or so years of being in the playoffs simply is not worth it.
Given the fact he just had reconstructive knee surgery, that's not really a safe assumption to make.
So instead you let him walk and suck ass until your team pulls a '97 Spurs and lucks out wininng the lottery with a future HOF'er?
Ok but assuming he will be back to normal??
Of course no one is "worth" the max. You can't make it that simple. Do you think Ray Allen was worth $20,000,000 in 2008 as someone who did nothing besides run around screens and shoot open shots? Of course not, I guess that means Boston woulda been better off without him.
Joe Johnson just had one of if not the best overall seasons of his career, and he's someone who relies little on speed and athleticism. You're ignoring stats and facts by acting like he's some declining player. He still has another season before he turns 30 and has plenty of good years left.
What would be better? Let JJ leave so they could go back to being a hopeless bottom feeder that didn't approach .500 and had deserted stands during home games? The Atlanta Hawks aren't exactly a team known for being able to rebuild quickly.
And the Hawks weren't even that great in the playoffs anyway. It took seven games to beat a one man team and another seven to beat a team led by a rookie. The team is flawed, and signing Johnson to a ludicrous contract is not any kind of solution.
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