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    It would also be the most delicious tampering ever.
    Tampering is running rampant across the NBA. Problem is how do you prove it?

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    The Twitterverse is having fun with this:

    Hey, maybe the Grizzlies made Ronnie Brewer unrestricted to get cap space in order to offer Richard Jefferson the max.

    http://twitter.com/hoopshype

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    Wouldn't that qualify as tampering?
    Agents have a crafty way of talking in hypotheticals. No way RJ blindly leaves $15 million on the table.

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    Matt Barnes has already turned the Spurs down in years past, will they actually try for him again?

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    Spurs still have full Bird Rights and can do a S&T with RJ.

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    I don't see why not.
    I can see it, but honestly, any team that gives him that contract, wouldn't they be under the cap enough to just give it to him?

    On top of that, the Spurs wouldn't get anything back worth a crap would they!?

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    Matt Barnes would hang up the phone laughing at 1.8 r u kidding me?!
    Funny or not, there will not be very many cheap SF options available.

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    The Twitterverse is having fun with this:

    Hey, maybe the Grizzlies made Ronnie Brewer unrestricted to get cap space in order to offer Richard Jefferson the max.

    http://twitter.com/hoopshype

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    Matt Barnes would hang up the phone laughing at 1.8 r u kidding me?!
    He made $1.6M last year. Any more negativity?

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    one scenario people arent thinking about....maybe Jefferson is going oversea's. European teams would over pay him ridiculously.

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    Funny or not, there will not be very many cheap SF options available.
    Exactly.

    Hence why he would laugh at the LLE.

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    Theoretically, could we go under the cap by slightly LESS than the amount of the MLE by waiving some of the unguaranteed guys, then sign Tiago, and then use the MLE for a free agent? And sign the unguaranteed guys back up immediately after... Is that even possible?

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    Matt Barnes has already turned the Spurs down in years past, will they actually try for him again?
    How much did they offer him last time??

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    Agents have a crafty way of talking in hypotheticals. No way RJ blindly leaves $15 million on the table.
    Yes, he must have something already in place. He can't be that dumb

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    Would the Nets really promise him money before they try to land LeBron, etc?

    It doesn't make sense ... then again, it's the Nets.
    They can tell him whatever story they want. Any evidence of an actual deal would be tampering before the NBA's FA period...They could leave him dangling in the wind after this and he would have no legal recourse...

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    If I remember right, then if a team is under the cap by less than the amount of the MLE, they get the MLE instead of their cap space. This would be to prevent teams just under the cap from being punished for being under (vis a vis teams that are over). I could very well be wrong, though.
    that is correct you get the higher of the amounts

    and you cannot use LLE two years in a row.

    also you can still fill roster with vet mins to people like dirk too

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    Looks like I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue.

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    Maybe he really has some kind of deal with the Spurs.

    Spurs would save money next season but will give RJ a contract like $20 million/3 years

    I really don't see any team willing to pay RJ more than MLE
    In a scenario where RJ opts out to re-sign with the Spurs, he'd have to be making a lot more than $20 million. That'd basically be like signing a two-year, $5 million extension ... which is way too low for even a bad RJ.

    Perhaps the Spurs could have convinced him to sign something like a three-year, $33 million or something like that. But even that doesn't make a world of sense for either side.

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    If this turns out well, will you not post for a year?
    What about this do you like? It's not like Eric b is posting nonsensical bs. As of right now, with everything we know, this isn't a good thing for the spurs one year shot at winning.

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    He made $1.6M last year. Any more negativity?
    A free agent bonanza with loads of teams with MLEs and cap space and not many SF options, and Im supposed to believe he's gonna only take a 2 hundred grand upgrade?

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    I can see it, but honestly, any team that gives him that contract, wouldn't they be under the cap enough to just give it to him?

    On top of that, the Spurs wouldn't get anything back worth a crap would they!?
    A trade exception for the value of his first year salary would be just fine. The Spurs could then trade that for a player on a team looking to shed salary.

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    Wow, can't believe this is happening. Last summer I never honestly believed RJ would fit with the team. I just hope this doesn't mess up the Splitter situation. In a weird way I'm kinda of excited about this. The off season just opened up in a big way now. And I have no clue what to expect.

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    Opting out for Jefferson wouldn't make sense financially unless he got 10 mil/yr for at least 3 years or 8 over 4 years from the Spurs. I honestly think the Spurs have talked to RJ and RJ probably told them he would be fine with a trade. If that was the case, Spurs could've told RJ that they will try and sign and trade him this summer, which would be a win-win for both sides because I think both sides agreed the fit was not good. RJ would get more money long term and we could get someone in return if we sign and trade. Win-Win for both sides.

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    How much did they offer him last time??
    I'm not sure. It wasn't a money issue - he just didn't want to be in S.A.

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    Damnnnnnnnnnn this ing sucks!

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