RICHARD JEFFERSON opts OUT!!

[4>0rings]

[coyotes_geek]

I think you guys are way overrating RJ's role and impact. Talent wise, its a loss. But talent does not matter. Look at what RJ did on the court. Look at his impact. That is not that difficult to replace imo.

I don't think the Spurs are much worse off. Maybe their bench depth, because the Spurs certainly could not survive RJ starting again.

Uh, no. Talent does matter. It matters a lot. Even as a bad fit he still put up numbers better than anyone who the Spurs could possibly get to replace him.

[pad300]

If the Spurs can't find a suitable replacement, I'm not entirely opposed to bringing back RJ. He's a bad fit but if the alternative is going ultra or depending on D-League talent, RJ for $8-9M a year isn't horrible.

Whatever the case, the Spurs can't waste this upcoming year. If the window is still open, it's likely open for only one more season. In a scenario where it's overpaying RJ or nothing, I'd rather overpay RJ.

I would not expect a long term contract from SAS. It's clear that post the next CBA, the team is going to crash and rebuild. Duncan and Manu gone. Parker an FA. Do they want to sign RJ (30 years old and doesn't fit) longterm at anything over the MLE? I doubt it. I think he is gone. The question in my mind is an S&T. For example, Chicago, If I understand correctly, needs just a little more space to be able to offer 2 max contracts. Something involving Deng for say RJ and 1 or 2 of our un-guaranteeds? That might work out to 32 million over 4 years for RJ, and give CHI another $3 million of capspace.

[TD 21]

I can't imagine he just decided this on a whim. No matter how miserable players are, generally they don't walk away from money that they can't even come close to making up (at least in a year). The only exceptions are guys like Pierce and Nowitzki, who are going to get massive extensions from their respective teams. Look at Curry, for example. He's miserable with the Knicks, they obviously don't want him, yet he picked up his option. So I don't buy that Jefferson walked away from this money just because he wasn't thrilled with the situation.

[jag]

Deng is good, but again not the best fit.

Agree. If you want a guy for spacing who can still provide scoring punch, you want someone like michael Redd...not Deng, and obviously not Jefferson. Either one is better than James Jones and his free agent scrub friends.

[Brazil]

I find it hard to believe, but maybe the Spurs told him if he opted out, they'd reward him with, say, a three year contract worth $21 million?

Why RJ would do that it's an extra 6 million for two more years ?

[EricB]

Eric, if we're team captains about to start a pickup game...you're taking RJ over Doc. Now give me that.

Im ending it here.

Ok yes.

Done with this now

[spursfan1000]

I can't imagine he just decided this on a whim. No matter how miserable players are, generally they don't walk away from money that they can't even come close to making up (at least in a year). The only exceptions are guys like Pierce and Nowitzki, who are going to get massive extensions from their respective teams. Look at Curry, for example. He's miserable with the Knicks, they obviously don't want him, yet he picked up his option. So I don't buy that Jefferson walked away from this money just because he wasn't thrilled with the situation.

Jefferson can still make 5-7 million a season while Curry probably won't make a NBA roster.

[Creation88]

I'm still waiting for that free agent your gonna sign to replace Richard Jefferson with...

i can sign a pile of dog and it'll give me a better run on the court. this team is BETTER without Jefferson even if we get no one in return.

at the very least we have more wiggle room for NEXT season. AND that alone is worth it.

[4>0rings]

wow talk about the door being shut.


Now we are in franchise limbo....making the playoffs with no chance at accomplishing anything

Like the Jazz in in the late late 90's and early 00's

Did we forget that TP wasn't healthy all season? And we saw what Manu was like when he's healthy.

Also, they need a SF who can make perimeter (especially the corner 3) and defend his position. They are not going to need all-world especially if the Big 3 still healthy this season.

"all we need is..."

Is a silly thing to say. Yes all we need is a SF that can shoot good threes and play d. We have needed that since Bowen left.

That's like saying all the Suns needed to beat the Lakers was a few more seven footers.

Basically

The Spurs are not beating the Lakers backcourt of 2-7 footers currently and realistically in the near future, just save the money and field some scrubs.

[Mel_13]

I think you guys are way overrating RJ's role and impact. Talent wise, its a loss. But talent does not matter. Look at what RJ did on the court. Look at his impact. That is not that difficult to replace imo.

I don't think the Spurs are much worse off. Maybe their bench depth, because the Spurs certainly could not survive RJ starting again.

Everyone does need to relax just a bit. It's not as if the Spurs are going play 4 on 5 without RJ.

RJ played about 32mpg last season with the results that we all saw. Let's say that those 32 minutes are covered by some combination of Anderson, Hairston, and Gee.

The question becomes:

What is the marginal loss in production from replacing RJ with those players? It may not be much.

Anyway, I'm not ready to jump off a bridge just yet. He could be resigned. He could be traded. We could get a bargain with the LLE. Let's give it a week or two and see how things shake out.

[EricB]

i can sign a pile of dog and it'll give me a better run on the court. this team is BETTER without Jefferson even if we get no one in return.

at the very least we have more wiggle room for NEXT season. AND that alone is worth it.

Sigh.....

Next season is the beginning of rebuilding.

Its getting blown up next season.

Next season for one might not happen, two, is the beginning of rebuilding.


Why can't you understand this?

[SpursTillTheEnd]

eric b is a dumbass if he thinks rj on this team would help us, we have malik we dont need gay ass rj he ing sucks, i guess u like having rj's balls in your mouth ing fruit go be a gay mavs fan

[MarHill]

[QUOTE=Cant_Be_Faded;4461598]"all we need is..."

Is a silly thing to say. Yes all we need is a SF that can shoot good threes and play d. We have needed that since Bowen left.

That's like saying all the Suns needed to beat the Lakers was a few more seven footers.[/QUOTE

Okay Bowen left only 2 seasons ago and he was 38 years old. It was time to make a change.

Furthermore, the Spurs took a risk on RJ and didn't work. It happens and the Spurs FO are human. Wow what a shock?

Since RJ has opt-out....now they will have to find someone who can fill that role. It may happen or It may not happen.

But this is one of the consequences of being a good team consistently. Hmmph.

Since they have a good track record...I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

So it's not silly to write what they need to fill that spot!

Also, the fact your starting PG was injured most of last season...will play a big factor for this season when he's healthy.

[4>0rings]

eric b is a dumbass if he thinks rj on this team would help us, we have malik we dont need gay ass rj he ing sucks, i guess u like having rj's balls in your mouth ing fruit go be a gay mavs fan

That dumb thinks Bonner helps spread the floor, pay no attention to Tpark.

[DPG21920]

Uh, no. Talent does matter. It matters a lot. Even as a bad fit he still put up numbers better than anyone who the Spurs could possibly get to replace him.

It matters at the top but not as it pertains to RJ. RJ was empty stats. Spurs don't need his numbers. Spurs can get someone with half his scoring but better defense and 3PT shooting at that is a net gain.

[5in10]

I think stein reported on Twitter that the spurs would resign him to a more cap friendly number.

[Sobe_Kucks]

look Richard Jefferson was a POS. his contract was inflated and the idea that he was a huge trade asset is a ing pipe dream if i've ever heard of one. this team is better without him and his contract even if we can't get another player to fill his spot.

mid-year trades never work out anyway. i'd rather get Jefferson outta here now.

Sounds a lot like a description of Tracey McGrady??? Rockettes didn't end up too badly in that deal.

[coyotes_geek]

It matters at the top but not as it pertains to RJ. RJ was empty stats. Spurs don't need his numbers. Spurs can get someone with half his scoring but better defense and 3PT shooting at that is a net gain.

Does that "someone" have a name? And can that "someone" be signed for league minimum, the BAE, or whatever small fraction of the MLE may be left over after using it to sign Splitter?

[DesignatedT]

Neither can I. I've tried to post here from my iPhone before. For whatever reason, can't do it.

That's weird. I used to post on my 3g and now on the iphone 4. Never had any problems. On the very bottom left hand corner of the website you will see "flash enabled skin" maybe if you change that to iPhone when your on your phone it might start to work... no idea though.

[Agloco]

i can sign a pile of dog and it'll give me a better run on the court. this team is BETTER without Jefferson even if we get no one in return.

at the very least we have more wiggle room for NEXT season. AND that alone is worth it.

Now you're just being dumb.

[manufan10]

Everyone does need to relax just a bit. It's not as if the Spurs are going play 4 on 5 without RJ.

RJ played about 32mpg last season with the results that we all saw. Let's say that those 32 minutes are covered by some combination of Anderson, Hairston, and Gee.

The question becomes:

What is the marginal loss in production from replacing RJ with those players? It may not be much.

Anyway, I'm not ready to jump off a bridge just yet. He could be resigned. He could be traded. We could get a bargain with the LLE. Let's give it a week or two and see how things shake out.

That's why you have that nice medal..

Great post.

[SpursTillTheEnd]

That dumb thinks Bonner helps spread the floor, pay no attention to Tpark.

lmao i see now

[Spursfan092120]

Now you're just being dumb.

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[spursfan1000]

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