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    Jefferson staying in S.A.?


    Richard Jefferson’s decision to opt out of the final $15 million season of his contract might not be a sign he’s willing to leave the San Antonio Spurs.

    Sources said Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has been personally working out Jefferson in San Antonio. The free-agent forward could re-sign with the team at a number that lowers the franchise’s luxury-tax hit while guaranteeing him more money on the back end of a multiyear contract.

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    34 pages of this ??
    This will look silly on us if it turns out to be a good thing for the spurs. Fill in your prediction here ______________________________.
    Last year posters thought the RJ trade would be successful. It wasnt.
    This year posters (myself included) are freaking out because RJ opted out. Maybe it will work out for this team.

    Reverse jinxing at its best.

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    Who cares who they start? If Anderson plays 20 mpg and Hairston plays 11 (a whopping 5 more than last season) then you have replaced RJ's minutes.

    Really what we need from the 3 position is perimeter defense and 3 point shooting. Thats my main concern here because while Hairston is a better defender in pretty much every way than RJ, he was putrid from 3.

    Anderson is not a noted defender but I would think that they can replace RJs 13 pts and 4 rpg per 36 mins.
    anderson also appeared to be able to create his own shot in college. idk how that transitions to the nba, but i can vividly remember my feeling of despair when rj would go 1 on 1 and brick a tough shot. let's face it - rj can not create his own shot.

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    Because there are always mis-managed teams that want emergency cap- relief, and expiring albatross contracts are the best way to get that.
    So you are saying the Spurs were going to take on a long term contract for sure? Most people think not.

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    Here is someone I am quoting that is definitely not more articulate than I am.
    That first comment was obvious sarcasm and I don't think your block quoting me back to myself is helping your articulation argument, but whatever makes you feel good, man.

    I was one of the first people on the thread (while everyone was blindly celebrating) to bring some reality to this deal. So, I think I did bring something to the table. I understand that there are scenarios that may take place that could turn this into a positive for the Spurs. However, nobody knows at this point, what that will be.

    I'm not in panic mode. That is a pretty wild assumption on your part.

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    We'll just have to clear out bonner and mason to get under the cap.
    They're FA's, nothing to clear out here.

    Guys like Hairston, Tample and the like were more value on the court anyway.
    I disagree, but that's a matter of opinion.

    And with Anderson filling a 3 point spot and surely no worse than bonner at a pressure 3.
    Bonner was a 4....... Anderson is a 2. Different positions, but yeah hopefully Anderson can bury a few when they matter.

    This will free up a further 7 mill for us.
    How do you figure?

    Does this work or don't I know what I'm talking about?
    An A for effort........
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    let's face it - rj can not create his own shot.
    Which is why a S&T with him is an overblown asset. His value is way, way down.

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    Who cares who they start? If Anderson plays 20 mpg and Hairston plays 11 (a whopping 5 more than last season) then you have replaced RJ's minutes.

    Really what we need from the 3 position is perimeter defense and 3 point shooting. Thats my main concern here because while Hairston is a better defender in pretty much every way than RJ, he was putrid from 3.

    Anderson is not a noted defender but I would think that they can replace RJs 13 pts and 4 rpg per 36 mins.
    Too bad the two guys you just described are 2's. Not smart for a small team looking for some size now is it?

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    If Jefferson leaves, I would be happy going after Salmons.

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    So you are saying the Spurs were going to take on a long term contract for sure? Most people think not.
    No offense, but speaking for "most people" seems like little more than a rhetorical trick. We did it with RJ, and I think we'd do it again with the right player.

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    If Jefferson leaves, I would be happy going after Salmons.
    They can't unless Splitter turns them down. Even then. No chance.

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    If Jefferson leaves, I would be happy going after Salmons.
    we have no money............................................. .......

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    No offense, but speaking for "most people" seems like little more than a rhetorical trick. We did it with RJ, and I think we'd do it again with the right player.
    It is far from certain the Spurs could move RJ. From both sides.

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    They can't unless Splitter turns them down. Even then. No chance.
    Too expensive? Wouldn't Rj free up cash?

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    thats alot

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    How was it a sure thing with him here? Are you sure other teams would want him? Because you said teams did not want our unguaranteed contracts. Would the Spurs be willing to take on a longer contract, because "conventional" wisdom says that is what they would get for RJ.
    Well, it's better than him opting out for nothing at all, right? You have to agree with that?




    Umm, yes you are. This is all hypothetical. Just like your RJ morphing into a better fit next year scenario.
    I only said that it was more or just as likely as a brand new LLE level player being integrated.


    You just said you could see the potential. Which is exactly what I have said. LOL you.
    Yes, I do. None of which involve Hairston/Gee swing rotation or a LLE level player being a starter, however.

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    If Jefferson leaves, I would be happy going after Salmons.
    And they do this how?

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    It is far from certain the Spurs could move RJ. From both sides.
    Perhaps. It is even further certain now.

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    I'm actually happy about this news. Sure, if we can do a S&T, great.

    RJ was simply not a good fit, and 12 points & 4 rebounds in 30 mins is not an insurmountable production. Plus we would have wasted half a season showcasing him so we could trade his ass for something unknown. At least now we have more flexibility going forward, and a full season to work a few guys into the position.

    Good riddance, RJ.

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    Too bad the two guys you just described are 2's. Not smart for a small team looking for some size now is it?
    Hairston has played the three pretty much his entire Spurs career. He is 6-6 220. Anderson is 6-6 210.

    In comparison Ime Udoka who played the three for us went 6-6 215.

    They are all swingmen.

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    Too bad the two guys you just described are 2's. Not smart for a small team looking for some size now is it?
    Unfortunate, the only other guy is Alonzo Gee, he's more of a SF (though claims to be a guard) however he's only 6'6" and probably has as reliable a 3 point shot as Hairston.

    Definitely need a guy like Posey, able to defend Dirk at the perimeter, able to hit the wide open 3. RJ could never fit this needs, however are there other Free Agents out there that fit this description?

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...gentbuzz063010

    Jefferson staying in S.A.?


    Richard Jefferson’s decision to opt out of the final $15 million season of his contract might not be a sign he’s willing to leave the San Antonio Spurs.

    Sources said Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has been personally working out Jefferson in San Antonio. The free-agent forward could re-sign with the team at a number that lowers the franchise’s luxury-tax hit while guaranteeing him more money on the back end of a multiyear contract.
    Yeesh.

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    Hairston has played the three pretty much his entire Spurs career. He is 6-6 220. Anderson is 6-6 210.

    In comparison Ime Udoka who played the three for us went 6-6 215.

    They are all swingmen.
    Udoka?! Yikes! This is just out of control.

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    has alonzo gee done anything at nba level or is this discussion based on d-league stats/performance? there are a lot of players who perform at d-league level who have no business in the nba. coby karl and ian come to mind.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...gentbuzz063010

    Jefferson staying in S.A.?


    Richard Jefferson’s decision to opt out of the final $15 million season of his contract might not be a sign he’s willing to leave the San Antonio Spurs.

    Sources said Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has been personally working out Jefferson in San Antonio. The free-agent forward could re-sign with the team at a number that lowers the franchise’s luxury-tax hit while guaranteeing him more money on the back end of a multiyear contract.
    This is the best possible thing that could happen. Especially if it leads to a S&T.

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