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Let's have DoK scoff this.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=3220
Exclusive: Mavs Want Joe Johnson, But Won't Trade Roddy B To Get Him
Atlanta Plan To Offer Johnson Max Doesn't Necessarily Kill Dallas Interest
By Mike Fisher -- DB.com
The report out of Atlanta that the Hawks want to keep Joe Johnson with a six-year max deal in the $120 million range would on the surface seem to kill the idea of the Mavs signing the explosive 2-guard. That notion remains alive, however.
What Mavs owner Mark Cuban would like to kill is the idea that Dallas will sacrifice prized youngster Roddy Beaubois in a Johnson sign-and-trade.
“No chance we trade (Roddy B) for Joe,’’ Cuban says.
For the Mavs and their fans – especially those of us who are passionate members of the FREE RODDY B! club -- that mindset establishes some ground rules on two fronts …
First, to what it means for the Mavs and Beaubois:
All along, the Mavs have been fully aware that a key piece in prying a star free agent away from his existing team might be Roddy B. If a team wants to be rewarded in a Sign-and-Trade with financial relief, there is The DUST Chip. If a team wants young affordable talent, that is Beaubois.
Dallas knows this. So if it ever comes down to serious flirting with the likes of LeBron James or Dwyane Wade (the Mavs believe they will gain audiences with both), it’s an easy call: Roddy B can pack his bags.
But there is some debate, not only among fans but in-house as well, about where the cut-off line is for dealing Beaubois, considered a pivotal part of Dallas’ future after his electric and unprecedented 50/40/80 season.
Do you trade Roddy Beaubois for a Joe Johnson because Johnson is clearly better?
Do you keep Roddy B in anticipation of him developing quickly into a player on Johnson’s impactful level?
If you think Roddy B is going to be a Johnson-level performer, do you believe he will do so quickly enough to allow his maturity to occur within the Dirk Era?
Are the “We Love Our Boys In Blue’’ Mavs tiptoeing toward once again arguably overvaluing their talent?
Mark Cuban has just given his answer.
“No chance we trade (Roddy B) for Joe,’’ Cuban says, corresponding via email to one of DallasBasketball.com’s far-reaching 75-Member Staff.
I suppose we should leave ourselves some elbow room here. Cuban could conceivably be putting down the groundwork for future negotiations with Atlanta and everyone else. After Draft Day last week, the Mavs were certainly forthcoming in whispering to various media outlets the news that “we got lottery-pick offers for Roddy.’’
(The truth, as determined by DB.com: The Mavs got one offer from a team between 6-and-11. So it wasn’t “high’’ and it wasn’t multiple.’’ But still …)
Speaking of holding your own player in high esteem. …
To what Wednesday’s developments mean for the Mavs and Joe Johnson:
In one of the shockers of the day, the Atlanta paper is reporting that the often-frugal Hawks want to retain Johnson with a max deal.
Is this also a negotiating ploy?
Conventional wisdom suggests that a max deal would block other suitors from coming after Johnson. That’s simply untrue. What if the Knicks don’t sign a prize to use all their cap room, and fill the void with Joe? What if Joe – in L.A. tonight prepping for meetings that we know will include the fresh-from-"Entourage'' Cuban – decides he likes L.A. enough to sign with the Clippers? What if the Bulls, the Heat or the Nets arrange to make him their “second star’’ after having acquired LeBron?
And what about Joe Johnson to the Mavs?
I’ve seen numerous reports about Joe being able to get only five years elsewhere. Of course, that ignores the Sign-and-Trade option available to Dallas, which can give him six years. We’ve created a handful of logical ways for the Mavs to Sign-and-Trade for Johnson and to still provide Atlanta plenty in return … all of that predicated, of course, on where Joe Johnson wants to go.
If he wants to come to Dallas, the max-money news out of Atlanta doesn’t kill that.
The only thing that kills it, we now know, is if the Mavs are asked to forfeit Roddy B to make it happen.
Let's have DoK scoff this.
wow
Also, let's hear Spur fans laugh at this despite ejaculating over DeJuan Barkley and James Pippen Anderson.
didn't he turn down dirk for kobe too? He didn't learn that time?
Rodrigue "Allen Iverson" Beaubois and Dominque "Dwyane Wade" Jones. Unstoppable backcourt.
for the record, I don't agree with this. You trade a guy with potential for a proven player any day. If it's just DUST/Roddy for Joe Johnson, you gotta make that trade.
They'll both be better than that fat asshole you think is the next Charles Barkley.
Cuban is right....NO DEAL... off Joe Johnson and the Hawks.
For the record, I overejaculate about Goran Dragic, but if the Suns resigned Amare and Joe Johnson might be the final piece to help Phoenix contend, I'd trade Dragic in a deal for JJ without blinking an eye.
lol overrating Roddy Beaubois
shut up you're causin too much chaos just bend over and take it like a okay mom
Cuban expects to give crap and get good or great players in return. NOT gonna happen. Hes gotta give up some decent pieces...
Just like over-rating old ass Duncan and Flopnobli
Al Jefferson, yes
Joe Johnson, no
lame mainstreamer
Erick Dampier is what we're banking on tbh
true. Cuban is still naive enough to think that just because the Lakers do it, so can the Mavs. He hasn't figured out that there's one set of rules for the Lakers and another set of rules for the rest of the league.
Not Roddy for Joe freakin Johnson dummy....he ain't that good and Roddy has the potential to be better than him in a couple years. At best I'd offer them the Dust chip, spare players like JJB, Stevenson and maybe a future 1st round pick....THAT"s it. Johnson ain't even worth talking about....he needs to stay with the Hawks and take the ridiculous max deal they're gonna give him lol
lol thinking Dirk will get you guys to actually win a leJust like over-rating old ass Duncan and Flopnobli
For the record, I doubt any person with a brain thinks he could be the next Barkley, unlike Dominque "Dwyane Wade" Jones.
material's ancient, come with something different, or just retire already
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