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    He's usually the most informed ESPN guy about the Spurs, because he's spent a lot of time with the team. That said, I don't think RJ's going to NY.

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    Damn, I hope it's a possible sign and trade..

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    Just an idea I've been kicking around in my head...

    With teams like the Knicks, Nets, etc. who have some additional cap space, does anyone think they might want to ship a player to the Spurs instead of just a trade exception?

    For example:

    Knicks have $34 million in cap space. They'll probably sign someone else before they sign RJ, but for the sake of this example, let's say RJ is their first signing.

    They could:
    -Sign RJ outright for $9 million, dropping their cap space to $25 million.
    -Work with Spurs on RJ sign and trade; same cap number, but maybe they also get a 2nd round pick out of it or something. Spurs get $9 million trade exception.
    -Work with Spurs on RJ sign and trade, but also send someone like Wilson Chandler or Danilo Gallinari to the Spurs. Instead of $9 million trade exception, Spurs get a player and a $6-7 million trade exception. Instead of $25 million in cap space, Knicks now have $27-28 million in cap space.


    1. Is a trade like the one outlined in the 3rd bullet kosher as far as the CBA goes?
    2. Do you think either team would be interested in such a deal?

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    To be honest, although I hope that I am wrong, I see the Tony Parker to NYK as a much more likely scenario than a RJ sign-and-trade to NYK.

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    I think Gallinari is nearly untouchable. But Chandler would definitely be a nice 3 to bring in. I'd go for option 3.

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    He's usually the most informed ESPN guy about the Spurs, because he's spent a lot of time with the team. That said, I don't think RJ's going to NY.

    Wasn't he the one that said "The Spurs are almost a lock to get Cory Maggette?"

    Maybe not, thats been a few years...

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    Just an idea I've been kicking around in my head...

    With teams like the Knicks, Nets, etc. who have some additional cap space, does anyone think they might want to ship a player to the Spurs instead of just a trade exception?

    For example:

    Knicks have $34 million in cap space. They'll probably sign someone else before they sign RJ, but for the sake of this example, let's say RJ is their first signing.

    They could:
    -Sign RJ outright for $9 million, dropping their cap space to $25 million.
    -Work with Spurs on RJ sign and trade; same cap number, but maybe they also get a 2nd round pick out of it or something. Spurs get $9 million trade exception.
    -Work with Spurs on RJ sign and trade, but also send someone like Wilson Chandler or Danilo Gallinari to the Spurs. Instead of $9 million trade exception, Spurs get a player and a $6-7 million trade exception. Instead of $25 million in cap space, Knicks now have $27-28 million in cap space.


    1. Is a trade like the one outlined in the 3rd bullet kosher as far as the CBA goes?
    2. Do you think either team would be interested in such a deal?
    The problem with the last scenario (Knicks sending player back) is that Chandler and Gallinari both have value and are on relatively cheap contracts. The Knicks could sign RJ outright and just keep the other two...or trade them for something more attractive.

    If the Spurs do a S&T with RJ and the other team is below the cap, it's likely any player received in return is in the "cuttable" category.

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    Wasn't he the one that said "The Spurs are almost a lock to get Cory Maggette?"

    Maybe not, thats been a few years...
    I believe that nearly everyone was saying that.

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    Ugh, I need some time to take this all in, I think I justed puked a little in my mouth

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    that or get Wilson Chandler

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    I would think this gives more of a chance to resigning Parker. That's a big hunk of money saved, that could be spent on Parker the following year with a new contract.

    Also, what is the incentive to Jefferson to do a sign and trade? Wouldn't he be more marketable to just sign as a free agent without the new team having to give up anything in return? Why would he do the Spurs any favors, obviously doesn't care about leaving them in a lurch, unless this would net him more money? Does it?

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    1. Is a trade like the one outlined in the 3rd bullet kosher as far as the CBA goes?
    2. Do you think either team would be interested in such a deal?
    1. Yes

    2. The Spurs would for sure. I have a hard time understanding why the Knicks would want RJ. Is he better than either Chandler or Gallo?

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    I don't get how RJ is a good fit for D'Antoni's system. D'Antoni likes players who can shoot, dribble and pass. RJ is below average in each category.
    He loves the run and gun. That's admittedly Jefferson's real strength as a player, getting out on the break.

    As long as we can do a trade and get something back for him. Chandler, Lee, etc...

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    Wasn't he the one that said "The Spurs are almost a lock to get Cory Maggette?"

    Maybe not, thats been a few years...
    Considering your posts on here in the last 24 hours, you might want to tone down the whole 'criticize the source' thing.

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    Considering your posts on here in the last 24 hours, you might want to tone down the whole 'criticize the source' thing.
    lol.

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    Yeah, I don't know that Chandler or Gallo are necessarily get-able from the Spurs perspective, I was just throwing names out there for the sake of example. Same principle could be applied to Nets, Clippers, etc. If the Spurs want to get a player of any value back, they may have to throw in a first round pick. As steep a price as that sounds, a large trade exception can sometimes be more valuable than a first rounder.

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    Considering your posts on here in the last 24 hours, you might want to tone down the whole 'criticize the source' thing.
    I stand by my sources.


    Again, scroll if you dont like.

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    I can't believe I read all 1110 posts in this thread...

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    I stand by my sources.


    Again, scroll if you dont like.
    Yeah, saying you heard we were going to go after a certain player for the LLE, but not naming said player.

    And then the whole Odom to Miami thing.

    What's there to stand by? The only explanation for item #1 is that you heard it from Kori or LJ and don't want to repeat it.

    Otherwise, who's gonna know?

    LOL @ Odom...

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    I stand by my sources.


    Again, scroll if you dont like.
    You don't have sources.

    hth

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    if EricB does have sources, and said he was surprised by the target for the LLE, lets say the Spurs sign said player, how will we know if you are telling the truth.

    You can't say "my sources were right" because you never mentioned the players name, the Spurs could go out and sign "whoever" and you could be like yep that was who my sources said they were going to sign.

    You aren't even saying if it is a SF, his previous team, etc.

    This is like me saying "my sources tell me the Spurs will sign someone this offseason"

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    If the Spurs are able to pull off an RJ sign and trade, what do people feel would be the most likely package involved? Would it be something like this?

    Other team gets:

    Richard Jefferson, 2nd round pick (to convince them not to just sign RJ outright with cap space)

    Spurs get:

    One huge trade exception

    Or would something as simple as $1 million cash sound more likely than a 2nd rounder?

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    if EricB does have sources, and said he was surprised by the target for the LLE, lets say the Spurs sign said player, how will we know if you are telling the truth.

    You can't say "my sources were right" because you never mentioned the players name, the Spurs could go out and sign "whoever" and you could be like yep that was who my sources said they were going to sign.

    You aren't even saying if it is a SF, his previous team, etc.

    This is like me saying "my sources tell me the Spurs will sign someone this offseason"

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    if EricB does have sources, and said he was surprised by the target for the LLE, lets say the Spurs sign said player, how will we know if you are telling the truth.

    You can't say "my sources were right" because you never mentioned the players name, the Spurs could go out and sign "whoever" and you could be like yep that was who my sources said they were going to sign.

    You aren't even saying if it is a SF, his previous team, etc.

    This is like me saying "my sources tell me the Spurs will sign someone this offseason"
    The only person who had a true source was GIG. That's it. He was the one who broke the jefferson deal and look how that turned out.

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