Article: San Antonio is the Best Place for Chris Bosh

[Ginobili2Duncan]

Well it worked for Kobe. So why not Duncan?

[timvp]

I'd do that trade. Bosh is a possible franchise player. Losing Parker would obviously hurt but if you are going to trade him, getting a stud bigman is one of the few scenarios that makes sense -- and Bosh is a stud. Having Duncan and Bosh (and probably Splitter) would limit Blair's worth on the Spurs, so including him in the trade is fine.

That said, even though I'd do that trade, it'd lower the Spurs' chances of winning a championship next season. The best chance the Spurs have of winning a championship next season is having the Big 3 healthy at the same time and drawing off of their deep well of corporate knowledge in the postseason. But I'd be willing to take that hit for the chance of acquiring a possible franchise bigman who could extend Duncan's career.

[Seventyniner]

The Spurs would almost certainly have to take back a bad contract to make the Raptors want to do this. The Raps would love to offload Calderon, but him + Bosh is too much salary for the Spurs to match; TP + McDyess is $18.5M, while Bosh ($16.6M starting) + Calderon is $25.6M. Even throwing in Hairston/Gee/Jerrells/Temple doesn't get close enough. Bosh + Jack is $21.2M, which is within Hairston/etc range of matching.

So a revised deal (that gives the Spurs a decent, if overpaid backup PG) is Bosh + Jack for TP + McDyess + Hairston. Hairston is fully unguaranteed, which would help Colangelo financially (though he doesn't seem to care the way he threw money at Amir Johnson). Throw in a first-rounder if we must, but try to keep Blair. If they insist on Blair...I still say do it. Bosh is an excellent piece to build around.

[K-State Spur]

The Spurs would almost certainly have to take back a bad contract to make the Raptors want to do this. The Raps would love to offload Calderon, but him + Bosh is too much salary for the Spurs to match; TP + McDyess is $18.5M, while Bosh ($16.6M starting) + Calderon is $25.6M. Even throwing in Hairston/Gee/Jerrells/Temple doesn't get close enough. Bosh + Jack is $21.2M, which is within Hairston/etc range of matching.

Not really. Remember that a sign + trade is basically giving the team losing the player SOMETHING instead of losing their FA for nothing. The Raps don't really have Bosh right now, so it's not like you're actually taking the franchise player off their roster. This isn't the same as making a trade for a guy who is already under contract.

If you have to give up pieces AND take back a bad contract - then it's not happening. Tell the Raps to be happy with nothing.

That said, I don't think the logistics work out well enough because Toronto already has so much money committed at the PG position. But the listed offer was plenty in return for a S+T of bosh.

[AFBlue]

At the end of the season Bosh sent a list to Raptors management of places he would be willing to go in a sign-and-trade scenario. To my knowledge, SA is not one of those teams. So, while this Bosh-to-SA-for-Parker thing can be talked up and down, it doesn't seem plausible since Bosh never stated a desire to be here.

[The Btown Spur]

At the end of the season Bosh sent a list to Raptors management of places he would be willing to go in a sign-and-trade scenario. To my knowledge, SA is not one of those teams. So, while this Bosh-to-SA-for-Parker thing can be talked up and down, it doesn't seem plausible since Bosh never stated a desire to be here.

Agreed Bosh wants to be in Miami, Chicago, or New York. He can pick where he wants to be signed and traded. Hes not comin to SA

[alchemist]

not gonna happen.

[Mr Bones]

I think Bosh is a pipe dream, but the arguments against Hill don't make sense to me. Is he a perfect starting PG? No. But neither is Derek Fisher, and he just won yet another ring. Keith Bogans isn't a starting anything, and neither is Matt Bonner, and neither was Michael Finley... but the Spurs tried to move forward with them. If you have a chance at locking up Bosh for the next half decade, you do it. A team led by Parker in the future without Duncan will be fun to watch, but I don't think they win championships without a player better than Parker also being added.

[vander]

For the 1234565432454345432345432 time Hill is not a starting PG.

and Derick Fisher is?

[Supergirl]

True, but if this deal is on the table, the Spurs absolutely have to do it and think of the PG position later.

That said, it's highly unlikely, of course.

Why? A quality PG is not that easy to find in the NBA, and the Spurs have a top 5 PG right now. I don't think Bosh is worth giving that up. It would make MORE sense to give up Blair, since his minutes will get eaten up by Splitter and Bosh, if they both wound up here.

[DPG21920]

Blair or Roddy B. Who is currently more overrated?

[vander]

The Spurs would almost certainly have to take back a bad contract to make the Raptors want to do this. The Raps would love to offload Calderon, but him + Bosh is too much salary for the Spurs to match; TP + McDyess is $18.5M, while Bosh ($16.6M starting) + Calderon is $25.6M.

would we really have to give him the Max? wouldn't the extra year, no income tax, and no Canada allow us to get him a bit cheaper?

also I wouldn't give up Blair, I'd rather give up a future first rounder

[Agloco]

Didn't see it posted elsewhere.

With Parker's recent comments, I think I'd do this.

http://dimemag.com/2010/07/san-anton...or-chris-bosh/

I'd do it.

c - duncan
pf - Bosh
sf - RJ
sg- manu
pg - hill

bench:
splitter
anderson
bellineli
evans
temple
hairston

I guess we should all thank the league that it won't let you fools do this......

[vander]

Why? A quality PG is not that easy to find in the NBA, and the Spurs have a top 5 PG right now. I don't think Bosh is worth giving that up. It would make MORE sense to give up Blair, since his minutes will get eaten up by Splitter and Bosh, if they both wound up here.

quick, who were the last 2 teams to win a Championship with an all-star PG?

[ezzizle]

I'm fine with giving up Parker and Dice, but not Blair.

why not Blair ?
he doesn't have ACL's in either of his knees so they'll give up on him sooner or later. that's why he slipped from 1st round pick to 37th.

[Agloco]

For the 1234565432454345432345432 time Hill is not a starting PG.

and Derick Fisher is?

Vander, the Boston Celtics beg to differ.

And no, Hill isn't a starting PG; As a matter of fact, he's not a PG at all.

[vander]

Vander, the Boston Celtics beg to differ.

And no, Hill isn't a starting PG; As a matter of fact, he's not a PG at all.

Nash >>> Fisher
Rondo >> Fisher
Williams >> Fisher
even that guy on the Thunder is better than Fisher,

you don't need a great PG to win the le, Hill would be perfectly adequate with the right pieces at other positions

also, going forward, TP is not even a Top 10 PG

if we could get a guy like Bosh for TP, that's a no freaking brainier. Bosh is worth 2 TPs, at least.

[baseline bum]

quick, who were the last 2 teams to win a Championship with an all-star PG?

Spurs and Celtics.

[vander]

Spurs and Celtics.

Rondo was an all star that year?

edit: I'm not sure about Billups, if he wasn't, there hasn't been one other that Tony since, since... before the TD era, did Jordan ever have an all star PG? was Cassell? going all the way back to Magic there has been at most 4 all star PGs winning championships to the best of my recollection.

not only that, But TP is no all star anymore.

[baseline bum]

Let's see... the Celtics were also 12:00 away from winning the le this year, and the Pistons were 12:00 from winning a le in 05, and did win one in 04.

[baseline bum]

But hey, the Lakers won 5 les recently and didn't need a point guard. Therefore, point guards aren't that important.

[vander]

But hey, the Lakers won 5 les recently and didn't need a point guard. Therefore, point guards aren't that important.

and the bulls, and the Spurs won with rookie TP and Avery, who did Miami win with? GP and white chocolate?

ask Nash and Stockton how important the PG is

[baseline bum]

OK, so all we need is prime Michael Jordan.

[baseline bum]

Or prime David Robinson.

[baseline bum]

And a time machine for Duncan too.