Rumor: Spurs trying to get in on Bulls/Blazers trade

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Also, if it includes Hill, hopefully there's another piece involved. Deng would solve our SF problems, but then comes a whole in the guard spot.

[justinandimcool]

Same guessing-game speculation here http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...7733&start=120

[AFBlue]

Which other rumor?

I doubt people want to deal with Dice. He has a $4M trade kicker.

Portland rumor...Pryzbilla (expiring) and Bayless (young talent).

Didn't know about the trade kicker though.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

If the Blazers would be interested in Deng, then they might be interested in RJ in a S&T.

POR - Jefferson
CHI - Przybilla + Bayless
SAS - Deng

lol at going from Deng to RJ. But hey, we've seen crazier and it's only day 2.

[ChumpDumper]

How did the Spurs ever win a game without Tony?

Overplaying the other stars.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Portland rumor...Pryzbilla (expiring) and Bayless (young talent).

Ah, sorry. Brain wasn't on.

[Mel_13]

Much more likely that any Spurs involvement is small to help make the numbers work. Something like 2 of the DLeague contracts for James Johnson.

[bigdog]

Who knows if the Spurs are even really getting into this one, but if they are, and it helps win ball games, I'm all for it.

[Kori Ellis]

Which other rumor?

I doubt people want to deal with Dice. He has a $4M trade kicker.

He has a 10% trade kicker from what I know. Not $4M.

[timvp]

Interesting.

Deng has four years and $51 million left on his contract. That contract definitely makes him overpaid and he's not a very good fit on the Spurs. That said, I'd rather have Deng on that contract than RJ on a long term deal. Deng is bigger, in the prime of his career (25 years old), a better defender and could be both the small forward and the stretch four (which would, in theory, make it so the Spurs aren't forced to re-sign Bonner).

Portland getting Deng doesn't make sense to me because they have Batum. You can't have those two players on the same roster and keep both players happy. That's just impossible. Now with Pritchard out of the way, perhaps the Spurs are aiming for a way to get Batum. I haven't thought of a trade that makes sense for all three teams and brings Batum to the Spurs, though.

The Blazers have been throwing big offers around for point guards (like the offer they put on the table for Chris Paul) so it wouldn't surprise me at all if Portland would like Parker. To me, Parker makes much more sense to them than Deng.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . .

[mystargtr34]

lol at going from Deng to RJ. But hey, we've seen crazier and it's only day 2.

I cant see the Spurs taking on that contract, regardless of the fit.

[ceperez]

So the Bulls want to trade Deng for a 'serviceable center'.

If Spurs involved, the center would be either Dice or Splitter.

But who then do we get from the Blazers?

[justinandimcool]

From word of mouth/radio reports in Chicago: Bulls have shopped Deng and have talked to three different teams...Utah for Okur, Portland for Joel/Bayless, Spurs for ???

It's probably not a 3-way. Spurs want Luol.

[SpursTillTheEnd]

for all yall wanting hill to be traded before parker and saying hill is not our future pg, ima laugh in yall's faces when parker leaves us next year and hill is having an all star pg season some where else, yall just need to ing face it parker will be gone better sooner then later and better for something then nothing

[Mikesatx]

Overplaying the other stars.

Maybe they should do that more. The team played their best ball during that stretch.

[Seventyniner]

Interesting.

Deng has four years and $51 million left on his contract. That contract definitely makes him overpaid and he's not a very good fit on the Spurs. That said, I'd rather have Deng on that contract than RJ on a long term deal. Deng is bigger, in the prime of his career (25 years old), a better defender and could be both the small forward and the stretch four (which would, in theory, make it so the Spurs aren't forced to re-sign Bonner).

Portland getting Deng doesn't make sense to me because they have Batum. You can't have those two players on the same roster and keep both players happy. That's just impossible. Now with Pritchard out of the way, perhaps the Spurs are aiming for a way to get Batum. I haven't thought of a trade that makes sense for all three teams and brings Batum to the Spurs, though.

The Blazers have been throwing big offers around for point guards (like the offer they put on the table for Chris Paul) so it wouldn't surprise me at all if Portland would like Parker. To me, Parker makes much more sense to them than Deng.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . .

If Deng for RJ ($8M starting) and all 4 Spurs non-guaranteeds was on the table, would you take it? That makes sense for Chicago (clears another $3M in cap room) and for the Spurs (locks up a good young SF who should fit better than RJ).

Where would you put Deng on your top 30 list of SFs? I'd say right at the top, though he's rather overpaid.

And if the Spurs trade Parker, who's in play to get back? Rose is untouchable, the Bulls want a center (so Noah is probably untouchable too), and I can't think of anyone on the Blazers (other than Roy lol) who would be worth getting in return for Parker.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe they should do that more. The team played their best ball during that stretch.

So they won the March championship.

Did that make you happy?

[Big P]

If Deng for RJ ($8M starting) and all 4 Spurs non-guaranteeds was on the table, would you take it? That makes sense for Chicago (clears another $3M in cap room) and for the Spurs (locks up a good young SF who should fit better than RJ).

Where would you put Deng on your top 30 list of SFs? I'd say right at the top, though he's rather overpaid.

And if the Spurs trade Parker, who's in play to get back? Rose is untouchable, the Bulls want a center (so Noah is probably untouchable too), and I can't think of anyone on the Blazers (other than Roy lol) who would be worth getting in return for Parker.

Batum

[TDMVPDPOY]

only players i want from portland and who are having trouble gettin minutes not what they expected....rudy, bayless....who else?

as for the bulls? they got quite a few good young SF players we can poach for, gibson and johnson...unless the bulls are thinkn of throwing in noah, i wouldnt mind him.

[Mikesatx]

So they won the March championship.

Did that make you happy?

Actually that stretch did make me happy. Toughest compe ion and impressive play. Parker is a great player but you don't need a top tier point guard to win les. Their play demonstrated that. Winning a le with Avery demonstrated that. The Lakers winning with Fisher demonstrated that. The Lakers had Magic and the Pistons Zeke but in my lifetime every other NBA champion had a point guard that was complimentary.

[ChumpDumper]

Actually

I believe it.

Are you still celebrating?

[pad300]

How a Deng Trade works for SAS & CHI

If the Bulls are looking for some salary cap space (for 2 max contracts, if I understand their position correctly), without a huge talent downgrade,

Luol Deng ($11,345,000 in 10/11)
for
Curtis Jerrels (unguaranteed, $762,195) (expected to be let go immediately)
Richard Jefferson (S&T, $8,233,805 ,$9,098,354.53 , $10,053,681.75 , $11,109,318.33 - 4 years at 10.5% raises = $38,495,160)

Deng > Jefferson, but how much greater?

[TDMVPDPOY]

So the Bulls want to trade Deng for a 'serviceable center'.

If Spurs involved, the center would be either Dice or Splitter.

But who then do we get from the Blazers?

greg oden + rudy + batum + pendagraph

[dbestpro]

Maybe it's Parker to the Portland for Deng and Fernandez.

[timvp]

Much more likely that any Spurs involvement is small to help make the numbers work. Something like 2 of the DLeague contracts for James Johnson.

That was my first reaction.

If Deng for RJ ($8M starting) and all 4 Spurs non-guaranteeds was on the table, would you take it? That makes sense for Chicago (clears another $3M in cap room) and for the Spurs (locks up a good young SF who should fit better than RJ).

Meh. Wouldn't love it but better than nothing.

Where would you put Deng on your top 30 list of SFs? I'd say right at the top, though he's rather overpaid.

Depends how much the others cost. I'd rather have Miller, Childress and Matthews as long as they aren't way overpaid.