General NBA Free Agent News Thread

[MannyIsGod]

You're really going to dispute them being cheap? Really? Just because they've won and made shrewd moves over the years doesn't mean they're not cheap. You do know that prior to taking on Jefferson's contract they were rarely a tax paying team? The only reason they took on his contract is because they knew the big three needed more help and because they wanted to attempt to payback Duncan for giving up $11 million over 2 years on his last extension.

What did I say? Over the past couple of years right? Like I said in my first post to you, I'm not sure you read very much on here.

The Spurs had the fifth largest payroll in the league last year. You may think thats cheap. I don't.

Well, you're en led to your opinion. I'm not saying the front office has always been that way, but they have been at times and I get the sense they're being that way right now. Maybe I'm wrong. I never said my opinion was fact.

I'm not getting paid millions to come up with something, they are. We know it's not going to be easy, I get it, I understand how restricted and limited they are, but if they're really serious about winning a championship this season, then they'll come up with something or at least try like to. I'm not hearing things like "Spurs working feverishly to acquire (fill in the blank)" or "Spurs are desperate to get something done or make a move". Nothing.

LOL @ I'm not hearing. Do you EVER hear anything about what the Spurs are doing until its done?

[Big P]

You act like I said "why haven't they signed James, Wade or Bosh?". All I'm saying is that this notion that they're going to out-smart everyone and get some quality veteran for cheap is probably not realistic.

If they're serious about winning the championship next season and not just being as cheap as possible while maintaining a sliver of hope at competing, then they should be aggressive and pushing to get something done. It might even take a hint of creativity and not just sitting around waiting, thinking "we're the Spurs, someone credible, who's flying under the radar will come to us later in the summer for cheap and we'll make out like bandits". Maybe they are being aggressive, I'm not ruling out the possibility. But with the amount of information flying around and them figuring so little into it, I'm inclined to believe they're not.

The Timberwolves sign Pekovic immediately and they're still messing around with Splitter, even though they should have been prepared well in advance to sign him the instant free agency opened. They knew it was probably going to take the full MLE, so just offer it and move on to the next order of business. They're more than likely not going to get him for around $4 million and they desperately need him if they have designs on winning the championship next season. There is no realistic alternative that makes that feasible. Why risk alienating him? He can make more staying in Europe and he might just stay if they don't give him what he wants and what he's worth.

This "we're smarter than everyone else and we're the Spurs, so they'll come to us and on our terms" nonsense has to go. That carried weight in Duncan's prime. Now, they're not some prime destination, they're just a team struggling to maintain relevancy.

Messing around? No one has signed anywhere..not allowed to until the 8th..all the names you have hear have been players that are re-upping with their original team...what is the advantage/purpose of the Spurs announcing that they have done anything before July 8?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not hearing things like "Spurs working feverishly to acquire (fill in the blank)" or "Spurs are desperate to get something done or make a move". Nothing.

When do you ever hear of the Spurs' "working feverishly" on something more than a day or so before it happened?

[TD 21]

What did I say? Over the past couple of years right? Like I said in my first post to you, I'm not sure you read very much on here.

The Spurs had the fifth largest payroll in the league last year. You may think thats cheap. I don't.



LOL @ I'm not hearing. Do you EVER hear anything about what the Spurs are doing until its done?

The past year, not couple of years.

I knew you or someone else would say that, but I'm not talking about specifics, I'm just talking in general terms.

Messing around? No one has signed anywhere..not allowed to until the 8th..all the names you have hear have been players that are re-upping with their original team...what is the advantage/purpose of the Spurs announcing that they have done anything before July 8?

You can reach a verbal agreement or agree in principal, etc. We've heard of myriad agreements so far. Advantage/purpose? Why does it have to be some sort of secret?

When do you ever hear of the Spurs' "working feverishly" on something more than a day or so before it happened?

We heard about the interest in Jefferson as far back as the '09 trade deadline and we knew that they were working to get something done with Bowen's and Oberto's partially guaranteed contracts before July 1st last year. We heard of their interest and then rumored signing of McDyess days in advance last year.

The Spurs might be tough to get information on, but not impossible. If they were aggressively pursuing something, a signing, trade, whatever, I'm sure someone would have said something by now.

I realize there's a Bulls-Trail Blazers rumor with them supposedly involved, but I was saying this before news of that broke.

[E-RockWill]

Spurstalk vs. TD21

The "Butthurt Saga" continues........

[ohmwrecker]

alanhahn
I'm being told Amar'e believes he can help Knicks get LeBron (recall all-star wknd in feb.). He's also texting Tony Parker about teaming up.

No way. There is nothing the Knicks have that is worth trading Parker for.

[timvp]

No way. There is nothing the Knicks have that is worth trading Parker for.

Well if the Spurs give Jefferson a $10M/per contract, it's not totally out of the realm of possibilities that the Spurs would salary dump TP's final year for something minimal in return. It'd really be the only way to avoid the lux tax.

Man, if it turns out that the Spurs re-sign RJ and then dump TP to make room, that'd be a franchise killer.

[HarlemHeat37]

The Spurs re-signing Jefferson to a multi-year contract(which would happen if the Spurs re-sign him, obviously) would be horrible enough as it is..

Wilson Chandler is the only Knick I would be interested in, I doubt a trade happens with them, unless another team gets involved..

[MannyIsGod]

Well if the Spurs give Jefferson a $10M/per contract, it's not totally out of the realm of possibilities that the Spurs would salary dump TP's final year for something minimal in return. It'd really be the only way to avoid the lux tax.

Man, if it turns out that the Spurs re-sign RJ and then dump TP to make room, that'd be a franchise killer.

Why on earth would they ever do that? I don't think thats even a plausible scenario.

[timvp]

Why on earth would they ever do that? I don't think thats even a plausible scenario.

If Holt says the Spurs can't be a tax team, there is only one real way to shed a big salary. It's hopefully an unlikely scenario but not totally out of the realm of possibilities.

[AFBlue]

If Holt says the Spurs can't be a tax team, there is only one real way to shed a big salary. It's hopefully an unlikely scenario but not totally out of the realm of possibilities.

If their main goal is to avoid being a tax team, I'm pretty sure they could just let RJ walk. Why would they choose RJ over Tony in any scenario?

[timvp]

If their main goal is to avoid being a tax team, I'm pretty sure they could just let RJ walk. Why would they choose RJ over Tony in any scenario?

It's possible that the Spurs convinced RJ to opt out to sign a more cap-friendly deal . . .

[Thompson]

It's possible that the Spurs convinced RJ to opt out to sign a more cap-friendly deal . . .

Wouldn't we know about the new deal by now if that was the case (even though the Spurs tend to be tight-lipped about such things)?

Maybe that was the case until RJ's eyes lit up watching all the crazy deals out there and he's waiting to see if he can cash in too.

[MannyIsGod]

If Holt says the Spurs can't be a tax team, there is only one real way to shed a big salary. It's hopefully an unlikely scenario but not totally out of the realm of possibilities.

Except they're a cap friendly team right now without RJ. Resigning RJ only to trade Parker seems ass backwards to me and I'd rather they just let RJ walk and give it a go with just the big 3 for one more year.

I mean , signing RJ only to trade parker makes me want to puke.

[MannyIsGod]

It's possible that the Spurs convinced RJ to opt out to sign a more cap-friendly deal . . .

I doubt it - he'd have announced a deal by now. All indicators are that he's flirting with other teams so him.

[AFBlue]

Except they're a cap friendly team right now without RJ. Resigning RJ only to trade Parker seems ass backwards to me and I'd rather they just let RJ walk and give it a go with just the big 3 for one more year.

I mean , signing RJ only to trade parker makes me want to puke.

MIG and I are on the same page with this one.

I personally think that RJ signing spells the end for Parker next year or Hill the year after that. I'd much rather the Spurs go out with the Big 3 plus Hill...and hopefully Blair, Splitter and Anderson can make decent contributions.

[Russ]

It's possible that the Spurs convinced RJ to opt out to sign a more cap-friendly deal . . .

Wouldn't we know about the new deal by now if that was the case (even though the Spurs tend to be tight-lipped about such things)?

One of the reports was that the Spurs convinced RJ to opt out by assuring him that if he couldn't get a favorable deal elsewhere, then the Spurs would sign him to a more cap-friendly deal.

If so, it would not be unusual that the Spurs haven't resigned RJ yet -- they only do that if he can't find another deal elsewhere.

[Obstructed_View]

Uh, this makes no sense. Either the tweeter doesn't understand what's going on, or Amare's as dumb as people have been saying he is.

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http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...=137405&spln=1

Fantasy Basketball Breaking News
Amare Stoudemire: Amare trying to bring Parker, LeBron to NY

Amare Stoudemire reportedly thinks he can help get either LeBron James or Tony Parker to New York, if he agrees to sign the max offer that's believed to be coming to him.
Stoudemire and the Knicks appear to need each other, as rumors swirl that the Knicks presentation to LeBron was not all that great, and owners haven't been knocking down Stoudemire's door to offer him a max deal. We doubt that LeBron will be motivated to go to New York to play with Amare, and Stoudemire has also been texting the Spurs' Tony Parker. Whether he can get other big names to join him remains to be seen, but we doubt he's going to get a better offer than the Knicks are floating out there.

[lurker23]

"San Antonio Spurs free-agent guard Roger Mason Jr. is receiving interest from Chicago, Miami, New York and the Los Angeles Clippers. Teams see him as an affordable shooter to add alongside a top free agent."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...gentbuzz070310

[Mel_13]

Uh, this makes no sense. Either the tweeter doesn't understand what's going on, or Amare's as dumb as people have been saying he is.

Or both.

[lurker23]

The New York press is talking about Carmelo, too, so it seems they're talking about how to build a team around Amar'e, including potential 2011 free agent options.

http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo...105&nopaging=1

As far as I'm concerned, it's just the typical New York sports at ude coming to light again. They think they're the center of the universe, and can get any athlete they want. "Who WOULDN'T want to play here?"

[Seventyniner]

"San Antonio Spurs free-agent guard Roger Mason Jr. is receiving interest from Chicago, Miami, New York and the Los Angeles Clippers. Teams see him as an affordable shooter to add alongside a top free agent."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...gentbuzz070310

Sure, RMJ can shoot. It's making those shots that's the problem.

[Mel_13]

As everyone knows, I reported last week on my morning drive show on Fox Sports Radio that LeBron James would join Dwayne Wade in Miami and take Chris Bosh with him to join the Heat. At the moment, that is still very possible, but there’s been a potentially huge monkey wrench thrown into the equation — with (understandable) greed on the part of Bosh being the main culprit.

http://stephena.com/?p=953

Stephen A. Smith is reporting that Stephen A. Smith's report was incorrect.

http://twitter.com/sportsguy33

[ducks]

espn ticket says now joe johnson is not going to commit to the hawks tell he finds out what other free agents do

[ducks]

wade is saying he is going to take weekend to decision


bosh is done making visits