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That's all he says about the Spurs.The Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, Cleveland Cavaliers and New York Knicks are believed to have submitted trade proposals for Bosh to the Raptors, and apparently none has impressed Toronto.
Saw this espn article by Adande (can't give link from this computer...blocked at work).
Spurs offered to do a sign n trade deal for Bosh, only to be turned down.
That's all he says about the Spurs.The Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, Cleveland Cavaliers and New York Knicks are believed to have submitted trade proposals for Bosh to the Raptors, and apparently none has impressed Toronto.
Wherever Chris Bosh heads next, he'll likely have to do so on his own -- and at a slightly discounted rate.
The Toronto Raptors have become increasingly disenchanted with the idea of helping Bosh obtain a maximum contract via a sign-and-trade deal, according to a league source.
Because of the higher annual raises and additional year a "home" team can offer its own player, Bosh could make $125.5 million over six years if he re-signed with the Raptors and they moved him elsewhere; he could make $96.1 million over five years by signing outright with another team.
The difference in the first five years of the deal would amount to $4 million.
Sign-and-trades allow for players to obtain the most money while their old team benefits by at least getting some assets in return.
The right combination of players, manageable contracts, draft picks and a trade exception could have enticed the Raptors to accommodate Bosh.
The Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, Cleveland Cavaliers and New York Knicks are believed to have submitted trade proposals for Bosh to the Raptors, and apparently none has impressed Toronto.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5352236
Mavs: Take the dust chip and little JJ. Do It!
Spurs: You can have Bonner, RMJ and Ian Mahinmi. Doing you a solid
Cleveland: S&T ya Shaq Daddy...?
Knicks: David Lee, he's AHHH'MAZING. We just hate his white ass. You can have him.
Toronto: At least we still have Hedo..... .
I honestly don't see a sign & trade for this guy happening anyway.
Who needs Bosh when you just locked down Amir Johnson for five years?
Who needs Chris Bosh when you're spending $30.7 million on Hedo, Amir Johnson, Jarrett Jack, Jose Calderon, and Reggie Evans next year? Executive of the Year!
I think TOR will S&T him if they don't have to take back any contracts. If one of the teams with cap space wants to give them a big ol' trade exception, they'll bite. To not do so strikes one as being vindictive. You don't want that reputation in the future when you may be trying to SIGN some FA. Remember, if you're screwing the player out of money, you're screwing the agent and his agency, too.
this makes it more intersting
because bosh has wanted 6 years and heat did not have enough talent to do a sign and trade
so maybe the big three could still all go to the heat
I wonder what the Spurs offered.
Tony Parker?
George Hill and Splitter's rights?
Those are the only two packages I think Toronto would consider. I think the Spurs should absolutely get Bosh if they can, even if they have to trade Parker.
Spurs should have offered Parker and Blair for Bosh and Calderon.
Bosh wants a max deal and Calderon makes $9 mil/year. No way it works.
Probably Parker/McDyess for Bosh/Jack
You'd think that Parker is the best player they could possibly get back in any sign-and-trade. Would there be a way to convince Parker to take a large extension just after the trade? If Parker's willing to stay in Toronto for a few years, he would do it, and the Raptors would do it; Parker is a very good player and the Raps would have him locked up for a few years.
Apparently none has impressed Bosh. Toronto's faced with losing him for nothing; I imagine they'll take whatever sign-and-trade Bosh would agree to....and apparently none has impressed Toronto.
Ultimately, a sign and trade makes great sense for a team about to lose a player. It forces a rival to pay more money, making them less flexible financially, and returns some talent, which weakens them even more. Sometimes, if the first move a free agent makes is one that forces his new team to be weakened, you have to wonder how smart he'll be as a centerpiece. I can't see Tim Duncan ever doing that.
Even though there is a limited chance for the Spurs to get Bosh, the fact that they made an offer surely means quite a few people around here that have scoffed at the notion need to clean the egg from their face.
parker was not offered
raptors would have been impressed
Actually it's being reported the raptors don't want a sign and trade because they don't want him to get max money..
Posturing, methinks . . .
Yea, that's what you would think at least..... Toronto has been making fools out of themselves for a couple years now tho, so wouldn't be surprised one bit for that trend to continue.
I don't think so. They're apparently not interested in any of the packages proposed so far. If he goes to a team with cap space, they'll get a giant trade exception. A giant TE is better than some pu pu platter of spare parts that some capped out team wants to offload on Toronto.
Would a 1 year Tony Parker rental really be that impressive for them?
Originally Posted by EricB
Actually it's being reported the raptors don't want a sign and trade because they don't want him to get max money..
Or reporter fabrication.
Why would Toronto not want a max deal for s&t Bosh, thus giving them the best potential return?
If they havent already, the Spurs need to offer Parker. Throw in a pick if necessary as well.
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