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    We need Mason back. He is our best shooter, and I think he can be very effective for us in a 3 guard lineup with 2 bigs. He was injured last year, and if we got the 08-09 Mason back it would be a steal. Bottom line, The RJ situation effed us, and we will not get a better shooter for the vet minimum than we would with Mason, who will probably command something around the midlevel in this specific free agent market but we could probably get a home discount because he loves it in SA. Pop used him horribly wrong last year, only giving him minutes at backup PG near the end of the year, and if he doesn't play another minute at point in his career, he can be very solid for us off the bench in a Brent Barry role.

    I know everyone bashes Mason because he had a bad year, but he was injured and wasn't played correctly. C'mon Spurs, give him another shot.

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    Seriously though, RMJ was a flash in the pan. Even I wanted to support the guy, but aside from his initial contributions on the team (which were generally in Ginobili's absence, mind you), the guy lost his shot for the last season and a half, and has also been a playoff dud twice. He was an instant big shot because of a few clutch shots, but he wasn't able to live up to his own hype.

    All Mason does well is shoot. His lateral quickness prevents him from being a solid defender, he's a terrible slasher, and his floor vision is less than impressive. A one-dimensional shooter who isn't hitting shots is a detriment to the team.

    Pop didn't help matters by trying to make him a point, which seemed to start a spiral that he never recovered from. But he had plenty of minutes, and plenty of chances, even before the hand injury. I don't think he's earned another season of them.

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    We need Mason back.
    This is as far as I got. I didn't see the need to read any further.

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    He is our best shooter,
    If that's true, then we should go ahead and give Manu and Duncan early retirement packages, trade Parker for a couple of second rounders and trade Splitter for "cash considerations".

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    We need Mason back. He is our best shooter, and I think he can be very effective for us in a 3 guard lineup with 2 bigs. He was injured last year, and if we got the 08-09 Mason back it would be a steal. Bottom line, The RJ situation effed us, and we will not get a better shooter for the vet minimum than we would with Mason, who will probably command something around the midlevel in this specific free agent market but we could probably get a home discount because he loves it in SA. Pop used him horribly wrong last year, only giving him minutes at backup PG near the end of the year, and if he doesn't play another minute at point in his career, he can be very solid for us off the bench in a Brent Barry role.

    I know everyone bashes Mason because he had a bad year, but he was injured and wasn't played correctly. C'mon Spurs, give him another shot.
    Clearly you had to much to drink on the 4th of July. I thought mason could shoot until he played an entire year shooting like jefferson, bogans and hairston. On top that he is to small and lacks intensity.

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    Cmon rogg first twitter now st.com???

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    What shooter is on the FA market right now that we can get for the vet minimum that is better than RMJ? The answer is nobody. He had one terrible year, yeah. The reason is because Pop took him out of his comfort zone and he wasn't able to establish a rhythm cause Pop had him doing things he'd never done in the NBA, plus he was injured. When he was draining game winners and he was the second coming of Robert Horry because of his clutchness (word?) back in 08-09 according to some people, he didn't play a single minute at PG.

    Use him as a SG and a spot up shooter and he will be very useful.

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    What shooter is on the FA market right now that we can get for the vet minimum that is better than RMJ? The answer is nobody. He had one terrible year, yeah. The reason is because Pop took him out of his comfort zone and he wasn't able to establish a rhythm cause Pop had him doing things he'd never done in the NBA, plus he was injured. When he was draining game winners and he was the second coming of Robert Horry because of his clutchness (word?) back in 08-09 according to some people, he didn't play a single minute at PG.

    Use him as a SG and a spot up shooter and he will be very useful.
    First of all, RMJ will not accept a veteran minimum contract offer. He will be seeking 2.5-3 M and 3-4 years contract elsewhere and it's too much to handle for Spurs.

    Moreover, RMJ was lost since the post-season of 2009 and he's not a good fit. Yes it's hard to replace him for veteran minimum, but you should try your chance. Maybe we can run after Raja Bell, who is likely to play in a contender for veteran minimum.

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    Awesome.

    Should we also consider bringing back Bogans since we cant find a better defender out there?

    Maybe Udoka also since he had a decent 07-08 season.

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    We need Mason back. He is our best shooter, and I think he can be very effective for us in a 3 guard lineup with 2 bigs. He was injured last year, and if we got the 08-09 Mason back it would be a steal. Bottom line, The RJ situation effed us, and we will not get a better shooter for the vet minimum than we would with Mason, who will probably command something around the midlevel in this specific free agent market but we could probably get a home discount because he loves it in SA. Pop used him horribly wrong last year, only giving him minutes at backup PG near the end of the year, and if he doesn't play another minute at point in his career, he can be very solid for us off the bench in a Brent Barry role.

    I know everyone bashes Mason because he had a bad year, but he was injured and wasn't played correctly. C'mon Spurs, give him another shot.
    FIFY.

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    He is better suited for one of the smaller leagues in Europe. I do hope some sucker nba team will give him a contract though. That would be great for every other team in the nba.

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    First of all, RMJ will not accept a veteran minimum contract offer. He will be seeking 2.5-3 M and 3-4 years contract elsewhere and it's too much to handle for Spurs.

    Moreover, RMJ was lost since the post-season of 2009 and he's not a good fit. Yes it's hard to replace him for veteran minimum, but you should try your chance. Maybe we can run after Raja Bell, who is likely to play in a contender for veteran minimum.
    I'd be shocked is Raja Bell didn't end up with the Lakers, first of all.

    Second, I'm not saying we would give RMJ the minimum. However, we can go over the cap to resign one of our players so we don't have to give him the minimum. Anyone we sign that wasn't with us we will have to sign for the the veteran minimum because we don't have cap room and im 93% sure Tiago will be taking our full midlevel. We do have our bi-annual exception, but I doubt that will be make or break for whatever player we get.

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    Awesome.

    Should we also consider bringing back Bogans since we cant find a better defender out there?

    Maybe Udoka also since he had a decent 07-08 season.
    RMJ was considered a top-notch steal until March of 2009 when Pop started making him play PG instead of playing SG. Don't play him a single second at PG and we have a 40% 3-pt shooter coming off the bench next season.

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    I'd be shocked is Raja Bell didn't end up with the Lakers, first of all.

    Second, I'm not saying we would give RMJ the minimum. However, we can go over the cap to resign one of our players so we don't have to give him the minimum. Anyone we sign that wasn't with us we will have to sign for the the veteran minimum because we don't have cap room and im 93% sure Tiago will be taking our full midlevel. We do have our bi-annual exception, but I doubt that will be make or break for whatever player we get.
    We can get the nearly same production by paying veteran minimum to a veteran player instead of paying 3 times more to Mason. There are still some veterans are exist who want to play with Parker and Duncan. So why should we carry on with RMJ?

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    you have to be kidding, I would give minutes to Anderson anytime over Mason.

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    We can get the nearly same production by paying veteran minimum to a veteran player instead of paying 3 times more to Mason. There are still some veterans are exist who want to play with Parker and Duncan. So why should we carry on with RMJ?
    Give me one veteran 3 point shooter on the market available for the minimum who can come in and average 10 points and shoot +40% from 3?

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    Give me one veteran 3 point shooter on the market available for the minimum who can come in and average 10 points and shoot +40% from 3?
    I can't give one.

    However, I can name many who can come and average 6 points and shoot .333 from 3, as that's what Mason did last season, when he played SG, not a PG.

    Even better! I can name many veterans for the min, who could average more than 0.5 points on a whooping 8% shooting in the playoffs!
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