And none of them are legit.
What deficiency does Mason shore up anyway? They don't need more players his size, they don't need guys that can't defend, and they don't need guys that can't shoot. That's an awful lot of risk on the "If he plays like he did for a few months two years ago" possilbility.
Is that enough facts to back up my points? Can I go back to just calling you stupid again?
Why not? I backed up all my stuff with facts, and people here are just saying 'he sucks' and 'you're wrong'. I'd love to have an informed discussion with someone about it and am willing to change my view.
Well, if you want to look like an idiot, go ahead. Somehow you got voted to whatever that award is next to your name, so it shows you how competent the readers are in this forum anyways, so they'll probably agree with you.
Chaz owning fools in here.
If I wanted to look like an idiot, all I'd have to do is agree with you.
It's not hard.
Where's the blue font?
You've got 6 posts in here and they've consisted of... you're post sucks and you must be RMJ... would love to see what other nuggets of information you've got in your other 22k posts.
I believe DPG was referring to chazley's trolling skillz.
Look here, TJastal, if you wanted to create a new account to make your points, there isn't a need for that.
Ok so we've got 2 pages of trading insults, can we get back to the original post? Or do I need to keep completely crushing anyone who keeps trying to insult me?
I've got two posts in this thread that actually talked basketball, exactly what you asked for, both of which you've completely ignored. Not really a rock-solid confirmation of your wish to do anything other than be the center of attention for a little while.
Man, do I really have to come up with a Roger Mason rap?
Roger Mason Jr is nothing but a piece of crap.
Take a hike, chazley, Roger Mason Jr or whatever.
Roger Mason for the MLE is nothing but clever.
Your life sucks so much you got to support junk.
Hate to break it to ya, but the Mason ship has sunk.
Yo, dawg, you better pray hard your crappy predictions are accurate.
He sucks so much, it is too hard to overrate.
Stop sucking on that overrated Mason's .
It makes all of us feel so sick.
Tell me chazley, how does my ass taste?
No we don't. Lots of guards coming into camp, lots of guys who can shoot, and most of them can also play defense and handle the ball, most of them are athletic and can get to the hoop, and lots of guys that can rebound well for their position.
No he wasn't. I say "wasn't" because he's no longer a Spur.
Since Mason can't defend very well, one of the guards in your lineup is going to have to guard a small forward. How many minutes per game are you counting on this lineup? Given the players currently on the roster, Mason's likely to be the worst three point shooter of the three guards in this lineup, plus he's going to have a bad defensive matchup and he can't really handle the ball, requiring someone even smaller than he is to be on the floor at the same time.
He wasn't injured when he sucked the last part of the year and when he completely failed to show up in the playoffs. Taking a chance on a guy coming off injury who hasn't stepped up in the postseason, who has redundant skills, no size, no defense, no ability to run the point, and who you yourself says is going to command near MLE money sounds like a steal, but not in the direction you suggest.
Barry could play point guard, so Mason can't play the Brent Barry role if he doesn't play a minute at point guard. Barry is a of a lot longer and can actually play small forward.
And unless you're suggesting a coaching change, I'm not sure what you think is going to change if Mason were to come back.
Teams will look back and think they can get the Mason from 08-09. Teams always do that, especially in this free agent market when teams are throwing money all over the place.
He shores up the backup SG spot and would fit in really well in a 3-guard/2-big lineup, which was highly effective for us at the end of last year. Again, teams will pay based on 'If he plays like he did for a few months two years ago' all the time. Plus, during the time his role was defined as SG on the Spurs, he was averaging nearly 15 points and was near the top of the league in 3pt%. I believe he can give us 8-10 pts. and 40% from 3. Everyone is acting like I want Mason back to play a huge role for us. Having an 8th man who can come in and drain shots is key for a championship team, and he can give us what Barry gave us in the championship years. You can always find a spot on a roster for high percentage 3pt shooters.
You actually proved my point, but were very condescending towards it. Kinda funny. Plus, I said while other teams might give him in the 5 mil/yr range, the Spurs could get him at probably 3.5/4mil a year b/c he loves the city so much.
Not sure how to respond to that, other than to say that was stupid.
3.5 million a year is less money than Mason made last year. If other teams are going to offer him five million a year, I don't understand why you think he'd take a third off the top of that because he loves San Antonio. He's already said he's not selling his house. Do you really think he's going to give up 5-7 million dollars over the length of his next contract to stay with the Spurs?
[quote=Obstructed_View;4475248Since Mason can't defend very well, one of the guards in your lineup is going to have to guard a small forward. How many minutes per game are you counting on this lineup? Given the players currently on the roster, Mason's likely to be the worst three point shooter of the three guards in this lineup, plus he's going to have a bad defensive matchup and he can't really handle the ball, requiring someone even smaller than he is to be on the floor at the same time.
He wasn't injured when he sucked the last part of the year and when he completely failed to show up in the playoffs. Taking a chance on a guy coming off injury who hasn't stepped up in the postseason, who has redundant skills, no size, no defense, no ability to run the point, and who you yourself says is going to command near MLE money sounds like a steal, but not in the direction you suggest.
Barry could play point guard, so Mason can't play the Brent Barry role if he doesn't play a minute at point guard. Barry is a of a lot longer and can actually play small forward.
And unless you're suggesting a coaching change, I'm not sure what you think is going to change if Mason were to come back.[/quote]
Barry rarely played PG on the Spurs.
Mason can play SF on offense for small stretches, and when Hill is on the floor with him, Hill can guard SF's for small stretches. Both of these situations are only during 3-guard lineups.
Mason has choked in the playoffs, I will give you that, and I don't have a great counter-point for it. The best we can do is hope he shows up the next time. He rarely saw the court his 2nd year in SA during the playoffs, and his wrist was still not healed like you said. He still had that cast on it. He showed clutch ability lots of times during his first regular season with the Spurs, so we know he has it in him.
And as a Spurs fan, you think it would be wise of the Spurs to get caught up in that and throw good money after bad at Mason?
I am still unsure who to side with. Many valid points on both sides. Proceed so I can make the most informed decision please.
You said he's not getting the MLE so you can't make that point. 3.5/4 mil, I'm assuming, is what you'd think he would get from another team. I think the Spurs can afford that and should look into the possibility of giving him a short term contract for those terms.
No, the best we can do is to let that choker walk and find a guy that doesn't choke, nor complains about playing time or demands to be traded...
I don't think it's particularly high-risk to 'throw' 3.5/4mil at Mason and possibly get a 40% 3-pt shooter and 8-10 points a game.
Anderson, Gee, Ginobili, Hairston, Hill and Temple are all going to be in the mix on that. The only thing Mason might have a prayer of doing is inspiring Pop to start him because he's a veteran and bring Ginobili off the bench while stunting the growth of the young guards on the roster yet another year, or costing one or more of them a spot.
And how effective was the three guard lineup with Mason on the floor at any point during his time with the team? I'd wager that it wasn't, particularly if he's going to cost more than he did the last two years.
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