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Why in would they trade Smith? He is a cornerstone for them and their second banana.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=nba&id=1057
Contract Info:The Hawks have been exploring the possibility of trading Josh Smith as part of their summertime makeover, according to sources around the league.
This makes sense in the context of the story on Fanhouse.com, which describes the Hawks offering a two-year contract to Shaquille O'Neal. It's not clear what the Hawks want in return, but they could try to package Mike Bibby or Marvin Williams with Smoove to bring back a top-notch PG.
2009/10: $10.8 million,
2010/11: $11.6 million,
2011/12: $12.4 million,
2012/13: $13.2 million
Why in would they trade Smith? He is a cornerstone for them and their second banana.
The next big thing on ST
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=2bhoqyb
lol pay pay tickets to see smith, not that turd JJ who is going to be laughin all the way to the bank
don't really know how adding smith and subtracting parker would help the spurs. would give them a more versatile frontline like the lakers i guess but smith, overall, is a slightly worse player than parker.
Because he's their first banana and they just gave Johnson max money. The first thing I thought when I heard about the JJ deal was that they'd just punched Smith's ticket out of town.
I don't get you on this one - JJ is their closer and highest scorer, so he's their no. 1, Smith gets it done around the rim and with hustle plays, call him their 1A. They've got Smith on a great contract, just paid to keep JJ, and they'll go to the playoffs again. Again, why would they give Smith away after he finally figured out how to play (to concentrate on his strengths)?
It's possible that you're correct, of course, but here's my reasoning: Are they going to be able to pay Josh Smith max money? If not, then I think they have a problem. And it doesn't matter if you or I believe Smith is better than Johnson, the question is do we think Smith believes he's better than Johnson? The problem when you overpay for one guy is that other guys think they should be equally overpaid. JJ just became the Chris Dudley of the Hawks.
I don't think so. Maybe JJ is a little overpaid but he's a really perfect fit for their system. They did well by keeping him, even if it cost too much money for them.
Saying Joe Johnson is over paid is like saying the the gulf oil spill is a tad bit of a problem...
I'm not quite getting the logic of them trading Josh Smith personnel wise. Financially I can see the argument that with the addition of a max contract in JJ. If I remember they have also been shopping around Marvin Williams.
Could be that with Josh Smith they are looking at it as a seller's market; possibly able to get some solid pieces + cap space + draft picks.
If they are going to trade Josh Smith just because they offered Shaq a 2-year MLE deal, the Hawks are dumber than I thought.
Josh Smith would be great fit to Duncan, do you trade Splitter for him?
Last edited by kobyz; 07-06-2010 at 05:00 AM.
Do it, Buford.
Everybody could be the trade bait except the Big 3.
this is what i dont get
the teams with capspace could only offer JJ around 80-100m/5yrs right? so why did the hawks jump 120/6, they could just match the offer the other team gives him...fkn dumb hawks
Smith remains a bit of a head case at times. He never clicked with Mike Woodson but overcame quite a bit of that to improve noticeably. He can't shoot FTs in the clutch (what else is new?), and he's in love with launching the occasional ill-advised trey, but if you can keep him within 15 feet of the rim and focused on D, he can bring a lot of positives.
Because if they don't beat the other teams then he just walks. He wasn't a restricted free agent. The Hawks may have been able to get it done for a little less, but not signifcantly if they wanted to keep him. Once they made the decision that they needed him (and they are not a playoff team without him) then this is what they had to do. They were going to get screwed either way. They couldn't realistically make the arguement that he should take less for the chance at a ring a la Dirk or Pierce, so it was put up or shut up.
Add me to being one who wouldn't be opposed to adding Josh Smith/Teague for Tony Parker. I do want to point out that no one seems to have mentioned is that Josh Smith's contract has a trade kicker of $6 million. That's a pretty big kicker to consider and makes you understand why he has been a bit difficult to trade for thus far.
I just skimmed the CBA FAQ, and found that a trade kicker can't be more than 15% of the remaining value of the contract, which at this point comes out to $5.58M. Is that considered part of a player's salary when doing trades, and if so, is it all added to the current year of the contract or split among the remaining years evenly?
RJ+unguaranteed contracts sign and trade for josh smith?
He's a bigger ass than Amare. He also can't create for himself or anyone else, or shoot. Other than that, I can't think of a thing.
without JJ the hawks could still be a playoff team, if either 2 of these cavs, heat, raptors loses its top players....
who are the teams in the easts fightin for a playoff spot anyway next season?
False statement. Led PFs in assists per game this season. And terrific help defender.
Are you ing kidding me?
The guy shot 50% from the field. Averaged almost 16 pts, 9rebs and 4+ assists. Our starting point guard Parker averaged only 1.5 assists more last year. Yet he "can't create for himself or others".
He's a beast, athletic, can block shots and steal. He's one of the most talented in the NBA since he pretty much fills up a stat sheet every night. And he's a good defender.
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