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Haha, they're getting GM advice from ESPN!
Or at least a trade exception.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...mire-plan.html
Haha, they're getting GM advice from ESPN!
If only we could somehow end up with Lee, I would actually be HAPPY about Amare leaving!!
If Lee came over in a sign and trade it would make the transition a bit less painful, they still take a step back, but I can't blame Sarver for not wanting to risk signing Amare to a max deal.
We're most likely losing Lou, Sarver's gotta bring in Lee to keep that white player quota up or the season tickets will start dropping. JK
Wouldn't hurt to sign & trade Amare if he's gonna get an ultimately identical deal in NY. He would just have a smaller salary the first year, since he would be able to have a higher % increase in pay per year, saving the Knicks some cap room this summer. They would just have to accommodate the Suns with something in return.
Christ, I hope this don't happen. I want those s bereft of anything on this Amare event.
Why do you hate the Suns?
lol where are the suns going to get the offense from in the front court
I don't know. I was fine till I moved here in '86. It just manifested itself immediately and has just worsened something fearsome in the interim.
If I'm New York I'd say you guys.
Amar'e is already overpaid.
As long as Stoudemire's deal stands as it is, I can see this move for the Knicks. If you're not going to keep Lee and he is most likely to sign with an eastern conference rival (Heat, Nets, Bulls), why not help send him west?
+ aside from the S&T for Lee chappin' my hide considerably it don't make sense switching Lee out for Amare. Just keep Lee if yer gonna do that. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
Why would NY do this when they don't have to. They could S&T Lee for something else decent since Lebron, Wade, and Bosh don't appear to be going to the NYK. The fact that the NYKs don't have to do a S&T is the reason they stripped their roster down for the last 2 years. The Knicks don't exactly have a lot of tradeable assets lying around and Lee is probably the only thing someone would want off the current roster. A S&T with Minnesota would make a lot more sense.
Dumping Lee to further massage Amare's ego with another $10-15MM would be dumb for the NYK. They already got the committment from AS.
Knicks aren't getting Lebron, Wade, or Bosh.
If I'm the Knicks, I try to re-sign David Lee to keep him, hopefully at somewhere around $9-10 million a year. I think Lee and Amare can play together, and at least it helps Amare's penchant not to rebound. With Eddy Curry also coming off the books, the Knicks can go back at it again trying to sign either Carmelo or Tony Parker, or perhaps both if things fall into place (unlikely but a thought).
Must be an echo in here.
tee, hee.
Man David Lee is overrated. His points and rebounds come from hustle, running, playing out of position at center so he's guarded by guys with less athleticism, and being on a team with no better options. It's very similar to 2006 Shawn Marion but at least Marion had his fluke 20 10 season on a winning team with other decent offensive weapons. Once David Lee gets a taste of the playoffs when the tempo slows down, the big men he outhustles during the regular season are playing with the same intensity level he plays with, and when he's in a 7 game series where the other team can use film to stop plays designed for him, he'll be exposed as the gimmicky player he is.
Amare + David Lee up front wouldn't work unless NY planned on making David Lee the 6th man or something. If a team is ever going to win a championship with Amare, it will be with him at PF and a legit, 7 ft. tall center who weighs 260+ pounds that can do all the things Amare can't while reducing the wear Amare takes on D. A large reason why Amare has always sucked at D is because he was never given a defined role he could succeed in. One day he'd have to defend the low post and box out someone bigger and stronger than he is, the next day he needed to focus more on pick and rolls and weakside help. The day after that he needed to do both.
Offensively New York will be a great fit because of D'antoni, but other than rebounding help, David Lee doesn't do anything to reduce the liability Amare is at certain things. Setting your team up so Amare has to do the dirty work in the low post is a recipe for disaster.
BS!
You can simply hustle up such stats as Lee has. By your logic Lou Amudson should easily be a 20/10 guy...
I gave reasons other than hustle, but neat comparison.
Last season, David Lee played 37.3 minutes per game on a team as the leading shot taker on NY with no one else who averaged 6 rebounds per game. Lou Amundson averaged 11.4 PPG and 10.7 RPG per 36 minutes. If at the start of last season you swapped David Lee for Lou Amundson where Lou is playing 37 MPG on a team that he would be the best rebounder on and would be the leading shot taker, I'll bet Amundson averages 15 points and 11 rebounds per game, the only reason he wouldn't put up 20 PPG is because he doesn't have a semi-reliable mid range jumper like David Lee.
Said it in another thread several days ago.
You can check my recent posts if you'd like.
I said it over a week ago so the echo is still reverberating.
David Lee did drop 20/12 on Dwight Howard and the Magic and 31/17 on that long and athletic Lakers front court this year. So it wasn't just the fact that he was being guarded by less athletic centers. The emergence of that midrange jumper is exactly what helped David Lee become a 20 point scorer. Opportunity and shot attempts, along with his relentless hustle especially on the boards, are what made him a pretty good scoring big man. David Lee might be a little overrated, but I don't think his scoring stats are a fluke.
Lee shot 55% from the field and made 81% of his free throws.
Amundson is one of the least skilled players in the NBA and really a stricly garbage/hustle guy.
You can't compare such 2 players...
Of course I ignore most of your posts and I didn't see you make such a comment before. In fact, I didn't read your post in this thread until you quoted mine.
So I guess it wasn't an echo, just two different birds unknowingly chirping the same thing.
Amundson shot 55% from the field as well......other than having a better jumper there's no skill David lee has that Lou Amundson doesn't have. You've never watched David Lee play if you think that outside of draining open jumpers he has any sort of skill.
So outside of the midrange jumper he's no better than Lou Amundson. What I've said all along.
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