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    Blizzard has a pretty sweet contest going on to promote the game with some baddass prizes.
    http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/pr...st.xml#gallery

    I know there's a few designers here, here's my entry hopefully I get in the top 10


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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    Nice! though I think I've seen more than 10 better ones in there. No offense, you're is still awesome. I know I can't draw anything remotely as good as that, but there's a lot of incredible stuff in there.

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    Nice! though I think I've seen more than 10 better ones in there. No offense, you're is still awesome. I know I can't draw anything remotely as good as that, but there's a lot of incredible stuff in there.
    I'm working on another right now no offense taken, the best ones are actually done by the same 2 guys. So between them I think they posted like 8? Luckily for me it's one prize per household

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    I'm working on another right now no offense taken, the best ones are actually done by the same 2 guys. So between them I think they posted like 8? Luckily for me it's one prize per household
    ah, ok. Then yeah, I'd say you have a chance. Is that actually your drawing? or is it like a photoshop of different drawings you found? 'cause if that's your drawing, damn, you've got skill

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    ah, ok. Then yeah, I'd say you have a chance. Is that actually your drawing? or is it like a photoshop of different drawings you found? 'cause if that's your drawing, damn, you've got skill
    No it's not completely, Blizzard wants you to use some of their stuff from the game, it was a pencil sketch and I took it into Photoshop, painted it myself and things like that to make it look a little better. I have drawings like that though they're not too hard. I mostly work in graphic design (corporate iden y, logos, business cards, etc.) and am starting my web design stuff so things like this are a new frontier for me but I've been playing SC since 99

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    wow that is damn good. nice job

    i suck at drawing, really bad, so i wont even try

    good luck thoguh

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    good luck with it man..

    i do gfx too but im no where near that level

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    Blizzard wants you to use some of their stuff from the game


    You are wrong.




    Original Work of Authorship.

    You hereby warrant and represent that (a) you own all rights to all Entry Materials submitted by you; and (b) all such Entry Materials are original works of authorship on your part and have not been copied, in whole or in part, from any other work and do not violate, misappropriate or infringe any copyright, trademark or other proprietary right of any other person or en y.
    http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/communi...ion/rules.html



    You agreed to this^ when you submitted your entry.



    Here is Blizzard’s original concept art, which you plagiarized:



    http://us.starcraft2.com/art.xml?s=46

    You can see that it was created (completely, not a pencil sketch) by “Samwise” in 2006, but naturally you removed his signature, or hastily smeared over it with gray, from the looks of things. Did you honestly think no one would notice?



    This is infuriating for someone like myself, who has spent nearly 100 hours creating a completely original entry for my submission:



    -while you spent, what, an hour? Two? That artist, “Samwise”, how much time and effort do you think he put into it before you “took over” for him?



    I know you aren't alone. Perhaps as many as ˝ of the submissions on the site right now are concept art or pre-existing fan art that someone spent ten minutes adding text to. Apparently whoever is qualifying submissions is either ignorant or asleep at the wheel.



    Perhaps Blizzard simply doesn't care. They own the rights to the material you've stolen, and it all amounts to site traffic for them, which is the point. If they wanted a fair contest, it wouldn't be judged by Facebook users, as those with more friends have an obvious advantage, but this is nothing compared to the problem of plagiarism, as the average Facebook user will not know that my submission is 100% my work, while yours is 99% his.



    I have drawings like that though they're not too hard.


    Then you should have been able to make something from scratch rather than plagiarizing a real artist's work in an attempt to impress a bunch of strangers to potentially win nearly two thousand dollars in prizes out from under compe ors who actually followed the rules that you agreed to!



    What you are doing is theft. It's not just theft of intellectual property, it's theft of reputation. To be perceived as a competent artist is a very valuable commodity. Careers are built on it.



    In short, you, sir, are a talentless hack.

    I'll be furious if you win so much as a mouse pad.




    I'm working on another right now
    And what have you stolen this time? Care to show us your WiPs?


    Full Disclosure: I joined this forum specifically for the purpose of calling you out and making an example of you. I will, however, stick around for your response. I'm curious to hear what you have to say for yourself.

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    lol strong first post ^

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    LOL 100 Hours.

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    Full Disclosure: I joined this forum specifically for the purpose of calling you out .
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    Ended up being 127 hours in Maya actually. I don't know how much time in Photoshop, but I'd guess another 20 hours.

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    I pre-composed my first post while waiting for my membership to go through. Since then the contest has been completely derailed by plagiarism. I'd say only 20% of the total submissions are legit.

    Contest Fail because of people like "TacoCabanaFajitas"... which sound like they would give you fatal diarrhea.

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    i'm pretty sure blizzard meant you can't use other people's itellectual property. I.E. no nike swishes's and

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    i'm pretty sure blizzard meant you can't use other people's itellectual property. I.E. no nike swishes's and
    Original Work of Authorship.

    You hereby warrant and represent that (a) you own all rights to all Entry Materials submitted by you; and (b) all such Entry Materials are original works of authorship on your part and have not been copied, in whole or in part, from any other work and do not violate, misappropriate or infringe any copyright, trademark or other proprietary right of any other person or en y.
    This^ leaves no room for interpretation. Work must be 100% original.

    Look at these two plagiarized, pieces, in 2nd and 3rd place respectively:
    http://www.joshuaclayart.com/seriously1.jpg
    http://www.joshuaclayart.com/seriously2.jpg
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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    So you think they didn't intended for you to use their work but then gave out awards that virtually ignored the contest rules? I promise you those regulations were only meant to placate lawyers and not to be the spirit of the compe ion.

    However, you do seem rather butt hurt after spending nearly a week of actual time working on your submission.

    Just a whole lot of butt hurt.

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    one of those pics posted says copyright blizzard, is blizzard gonna sue blizzard?

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    one of those pics posted says copyright blizzard, is blizzard gonna sue blizzard?
    What part of "have not been copied, in whole or in part, from any other work" do you not understand?

    Weather the rules were in place to placate lawyers or not, these contestants willfully entered into an agreement, then broke that agreement, with the specific intent of misrepresenting themselves.

    At least one of the plagiarized artists is not a Blizzard employee. He's an artist over at deviant art, and I've been in contact with him.

    Someone took his fan art, literally added nothing but two lines of text, and called it their own. Should that person win a laptop?
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    Oh man its a crackdown.

    What you are doing is theft.
    No, it is not. It is copyright infringement. Butt hurt artists are enablers to the absolute power that Hollywood and the recording industry wields globally.

    Copying. Is. Not. Stealing.

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    What part of "have not been copied, in whole or in part, from any other work" do you not understand?

    Weather the rules were in place to placate lawyers or not, these contestants willfully entered into an agreement, then broke that agreement, with the specific intent of misrepresenting themselves.

    At least one of the plagiarized artists is not a Blizzard employee. He's an artist over at deviant art, and I've been in contact with him.

    Someone took his fan art, literally added nothing but two lines of text, and called it their own. Should that person win a laptop?
    since one of those pics CLEARLY says copyright of Blizzard the original gave up his rights to it and its Blizzards IP now, let me ask you something who do you think has rights to the winners pictures. I'm assuming Blizzard has it in their enter agreement that it becomes their ip once submitted

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    Lets me try this a different way.

    All the teams in the NBA agree not to use steroids.

    Imagine if all the members of ONLY THREE teams obeyed this rule, and ALL the members of ALL the other teams DID NOT.

    What's more, imagine that so many of the players are openly vocal about their steroid use, and so few people seem to care, that you accept it as the norm, regardless of the rules.

    If you think the basketball players you are watching are likely to be on steroids, you are more likely to believe they ARE on steroids IF their performance is notably superior. Therefore you are LESS IMPRESSED.

    The players who stayed clean and worked their asses off are now presumed to be on steroids and therefore their passion and perseverance is actually working against them.

    Think how this would effect the compe ion it's self, regardless of anyone's ego. It would break the game, and you would never know how the teams would have stacked up on a level playing field.

    Similarly, when you can't be sure if the art you're looking at is original, then ironically you question the authenticity of the most professional looking work. Broken contest.
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    On the subject of "butt hurt" were we to pretend the contests wasn't broken, I beat Taco's entry by more than 100 votes:
    http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/pr...inum=165&ap=14 Submitted under "TexasWreckShop"
    http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/pr...inum=221&ap=19

    Were I particularly egotistical (and I will admit to a sense of self worth that is closely associated with my own perception of my ability as an artist) I might conclude that my work is superior to both Taco's "art" and the original work he stole it from, at least to the average Facebook user.

    But ego isn't the issue because this contest is broken, now we will NEVER KNOW how ANY of the legitimate submissions would have stacked up on a level playing field.

    And yes, whoever is running this contest for Blizzard is just as culpable for accepting the illegitimate submissions, as the plagiarizers are for submitting them. Ignorant or apathetic, they aren't doing their job based on the stipulations that THEY SET.
    ________________________________

    So that's Problem #1, the broken contest. Problem #2 is totally different.
    What if you actually WIN with your plagiarized material?

    This->
    http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/pr...inum=546&ap=46
    -is the fan art that someone added text to. I ask again, does that text-adder deserve a laptop, and more importantly the prestige of winning an international compe ion? Or does the artist?
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    since one of those pics CLEARLY says copyright of Blizzard the original gave up his rights to it and its Blizzards IP now, let me ask you something who do you think has rights to the winners pictures. I'm assuming Blizzard has it in their enter agreement that it becomes their ip once submitted
    Of course blizzard won't sue it's self, and yes, they reserve NON EXCLUSIVE rights to the content. These notions are completely inconsequential and designed to steer the conversation away from relevant topics.
    In debate they call this a "Red Herring."

    You also aren't reading very carefully (or you are ignoring selectively) because I addressed this issue already, speculated on it, and moved past it to the meat of the issue:
    Perhaps Blizzard simply doesn't care. They own the rights to the material you've stolen, and it all amounts to site traffic for them, which is the point. If they wanted a fair contest, it wouldn't be judged by Facebook users, as those with more friends have an obvious advantage, but this is nothing compared to the problem of plagiarism, as the average Facebook user will not know that my submission is 100% my work, while yours is 99% his.
    _______________________________________

    Oh man its a crackdown.

    No, it is not. It is copyright infringement. Butt hurt artists are enablers to the absolute power that Hollywood and the recording industry wields globally.

    Copying. Is. Not. Stealing.
    I thought I made it clear that I wasn't referring to traditional monetary wealth. I'm in favor of free distribution. That's how artists like myself build a reputation, and that reputation is what's valuable. Understand?

    I offer free content on Turbosquid.com and I love it when people download it and build upon it, because THEY ALWAYS CREDIT ME. They agreed to when they joined the site, and they follow the rules because they respect the GAME and they respect me as an artist, so my reputation grows along with theirs, rather than becoming their reputation.

    Taco has no respect for Samwise's ability as an artist. He's a tiny man, standing on the shoulders of giant, claiming to be tall.

    Say you are a musician and you record a cover of a song. You give the original artist credit. You don't enter it into a contest as original work, regardless of weather you think you can get away with it, because you respect the artist who created it.

    Get it yet?
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    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    Oh we get it, but you don't seem to get it.

    This thread is amazing. 100 ing hours!


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    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    Oh we get it, but you don't seem to get it.

    This thread is amazing. 100 ing hours!

    No, I don't get it. Are you saying 100 hours is unbelievable? Because for modeling, texturing, lighting and rendering, it isn't that much really. I cut a lot of corners because I had a deadline to meet.

    You can see for yourself. My work in progress thread is here:
    http://forums.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=168463
    See? Real artists can demonstrate the legitimacy of their work.

    My comic book, which you can read here: http://crossovercomic.com/ represents nearly SIX YEARS of work, so this contest was a drop in the bucket by comparison.

    This isn't a mild interest for me. It's a borderline obsession.
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    This isn't a mild interest for me. It's a borderline obsession.
    I don't think that's much of a revelation to anyone who's read the thread so far.

    Just sayin'.

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    Contest Fail because of people like "TacoCabanaFajitas"... which sound like they would give you fatal diarrhea.



    You bring glorified fan art and photoshops to our geek zone forum! You insult the sacred food establishment of our homeland. You threaten the OP with plagiarism and contest tampering!

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