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    That montage was great.

    Song also reminds me a lot of Vice City.
    ironic since Vice City is a scarface game basically

    amazing game, rumor has it that the next GTA will be miami again

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    What's that? Public Enemy?
    Grapefruit scene own hard tbh. Mostly because its so unexpected.

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    for the record

    Tony Montana was SUPPOSED to be an arrogant, macho, overly-confident son of a . Ever heard of latino passion?

    The way Pacino played him was PERFECT.

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    It's not basically Scarface. It took bits and pieces from all kinds of 80's shows and and movies.


    Lance Vance clearly looks like the black guy from Miami Vice. And the last mission isn't like the final scene in Scarface.

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    Al Pacino has been good in exactly five films. Five. And none of them are Scarface.

    So ing overrated it's not even funny.
    bull , i can name more than 5 right now, and I'll avoid naming Scarface

    The Godfather
    The Godfather pt 2
    Glengarry Glen Ross
    Scent of a Woman
    Dog Day Afternoon
    The Devil's Advocate
    Donnie Brasco

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    tbh people only care about it because it got trendy for rappers to knobslob it on MTV Cribs. Once every dumbass out there saw that Ja Rule/Xzibit/Juvenile/Master P/etc had a Scarface poster in their house, somehow the idea spread that Scarface was the greatest gangster movie ever.
    This is utter bull btw. Scarface made it huge on cable in the late eighties and early nineties. Plus on VHS.

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    Look you can criticize that movie for many things but to criticize for it having an over the top performance by Pacino totally and completely misses the mark.
    That argument may have merit if the vast majority of Pacino's other performances weren't also comically over-the-top.

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    The greatest gangster movie ever was made in 1931.
    Casino
    Goodfellas

    both are better.

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    bull , i can name more than 5 right now, and I'll avoid naming Scarface

    The Godfather
    The Godfather pt 2
    Glengarry Glen Ross
    Scent of a Woman
    Dog Day Afternoon
    The Devil's Advocate
    Donnie Brasco
    Carlito's Way
    Heat
    Serpico
    Dog Day Afternoon
    Scarecrow
    And Justice for All
    etc etc

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    This is utter bull btw. Scarface made it huge on cable in the late eighties and early nineties. Plus on VHS.
    100% truth

    I remember watching Scarface as a little kid with my cousins and friends in like 1991.

    it was a huge cult classic, it was ahead of it's time.

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    bull , i can name more than 5 right now, and I'll avoid naming Scarface

    The Godfather
    The Godfather pt 2
    Glengarry Glen Ross
    Scent of a Woman
    Dog Day Afternoon
    The Devil's Advocate
    Donnie Brasco
    You only named four good performances there.

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    I said Dog Day Afternoon up there

    but I didn't like HEAT.....

    his scene with DeNiro was , imo.

    Pacino : "I'm a cop, and Im going to hunt you down no matter where you are"

    DeNiro: "Im a crook, and Im going to get away and you better be scared of me hurr durr"

    Pacino : "on the flip side, I am Al Pacino"

    DeNiro : "but on the other flip side, I'm deniro"

    ing stupid.

    the movie overall was OK though, classic shootout scene, but eh. dialogue needed improvement.

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    That argument may have merit if the vast majority of Pacino's other performances weren't also comically over-the-top.
    WTF? Pacino and De Palma have said repeatedly the whole point of that movie was to be over the top, it ends with a gunfight where he gets shot like 50 times and kills dozens of guys after burying his face in like gigantic, enormous pile of cocaine.

    Regardless of how he acted in other movies, he had a legit reason to be over the top in that movie. Again, it was the whole point.

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    You only named four good performances there.
    The internet's great people just sate their opinion's fact in the face of overwhelming evidence and act like it means something. What imaginary consensus are you referring to?

    Oh, did we forget The Insider?

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    Casino
    Goodfellas

    both are better.
    Two of my favorite films, by one of my favorite directors, but both were made within an already well established mafia genre. But Public Enemy was brutal for the time it was made, completely original, and Cagney was amazing.

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    You only named four good performances there.
    I am going to guess you didn't like Devil's Advocate

    Pacino is hands down, among the best Satan's ever put to film.



    he played him perfectly.

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    I said Dog Day Afternoon up there

    but I didn't like HEAT.....

    his scene with DeNiro was , imo.

    Pacino : "I'm a cop, and Im going to hunt you down no matter where you are"

    DeNiro: "Im a crook, and Im going to get away and you better be scared of me hurr durr"

    Pacino : "on the flip side, I am Al Pacino"

    DeNiro : "but on the other flip side, I'm deniro"

    ing stupid.

    the movie overall was OK though, classic shootout scene, but eh. dialogue needed improvement.
    Honestly, what kind of conversation did you expect a career criminal and a career police officer to have? Seemed fairly realistic imo. Of course it is one of my favorite movies.

    Glengarry Glen Ross dominates though this much is true. I love the out of that movie.

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    It's not basically Scarface. It took bits and pieces from all kinds of 80's shows and and movies.


    Lance Vance clearly looks like the black guy from Miami Vice. And the last mission isn't like the final scene in Scarface.
    The Sopranos is a top five TV show of all time by acclimaation and my own personal opinion, and it ripped off a load from The Godfather and Goodfellas. Tarantino has admitted to "borrowing" tons of from his favorite movies but he's still easily one of the best directors in the last 20 years. What's your point?

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    Honestly, what kind of conversation did you expect a career criminal and a career police officer to have? Seemed fairly realistic imo. Of course it is one of my favorite movies.
    it felt too self-concious of the actors playing the roles. the "moment" of Pacino vs Deniro....

    it felt out of place, and very cheesy. imo.

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    The internet's great people just sate their opinion's fact in the face of overwhelming evidence and act like it means something. What imaginary consensus are you referring to?

    Oh, did we forget The Insider?
    No, Insomnia.

    It, Donnie Brasco, Dog Day Afternoon, The Godfather, and The Godfather Part 2 are the only films in which Pacino gives any indication he's even capable of subtlety.

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    I am going to guess you didn't like Devil's Advocate

    Pacino is hands down, among the best Satan's ever put to film.



    he played him perfectly.
    I think it's a hilarious performance. And a hilarious film.

    Not good, by any means, but endlessly entertaining.

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    The Sopranos is a top five TV show of all time by acclimaation and my own personal opinion, and it ripped off a load from The Godfather and Goodfellas. Tarantino has admitted to "borrowing" tons of from his favorite movies but he's still easily one of the best directors in the last 20 years. What's your point?
    Never said anything was wrong with taking bits and pieces. I'm just saying that it's not basically Scarface. It's absolutely ing not. It has bits from everything. Like GTA SA did.

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    No, Insomnia.

    It, Donnie Brasco, Dog Day Afternoon, The Godfather, and The Godfather Part 2 are the only films in which Pacino gives any indication he's even capable of subtlety.
    What imaginary consensus are your referring to?

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    Heat, Dog Day Afternoon, Godfather 1 & 2, and uh... I'll get back to you on that.

    EDIT: Serpico, too.

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    No, Insomnia.

    It, Donnie Brasco, Dog Day Afternoon, The Godfather, and The Godfather Part 2 are the only films in which Pacino gives any indication he's even capable of subtlety.
    so basically, you have a personal preference of a type of character, or acting, in this case "subtlety"

    and you dog on Pacino for this


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