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    Don't think Jefferson fits with Hedo still there.

    Since crazy trades are being thrown out everywhere, how about

    Tony to NYC

    David Lee, Dice and Splitter to Toronto

    Bosh and Wilson Chandler to SA

    That's actually not a bad trade scenario.


    Following the same theme here, I think NY should throw in Danilo Gallinari to Toronto. The Raps could have a starting lineup that consists of:

    PG - Jose Calderon
    SG - Marco Belinelli
    SF - Hedo Turkoglu
    PF - Danilo Gallinari
    C - Andrea Bargnani

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    Again, nowhere has it been said that Bosh included the Spurs among the teams he'd be willing to go in a sign-and-trade scenario. The list he provided the Raptors only had the Mavs and Rockets, IIRC.

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    Anyone able to translate this from ducks to english?
    I believe he's talking about an old wooden ship used during the Civil War era.

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    Another free agent who could ultimately figure into all of this is the Knicks' own David Lee, who Sheridan reports is amenable to going to Toronto in a sign-and-trade for Chris Bosh. Sheridan also reports that the Raptors would welcome such a swap.

    The Knicks have communicated to Amar'e Stoudemire that they are willing to offer him a maximum-salary contract of $100 million over 5 years without yet making him a firm offer.

    The reason the Knicks are holding off is to wait for decisions from James, Bosh and Dwyane Wade.

    At the heart of the matter is with whom James and Bosh prefer to play and in which city each prefers to play.

    On Thursday, New York's management told James he can bring any other maximum-level player with him, or he could agree to play with David Lee re-signed by the Knicks at some number below the max-salary amount.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...#ixzz0slFHLcf4

    What if Bosh and LeBron ended up in NY? Would they still have room for TP next summer?

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    david lee liked the wolves !

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    Another free agent who could ultimately figure into all of this is the Knicks' own David Lee, who Sheridan reports is amenable to going to Toronto in a sign-and-trade for Chris Bosh. Sheridan also reports that the Raptors would welcome such a swap.

    The Knicks have communicated to Amar'e Stoudemire that they are willing to offer him a maximum-salary contract of $100 million over 5 years without yet making him a firm offer.

    The reason the Knicks are holding off is to wait for decisions from James, Bosh and Dwyane Wade.

    At the heart of the matter is with whom James and Bosh prefer to play and in which city each prefers to play.

    On Thursday, New York's management told James he can bring any other maximum-level player with him, or he could agree to play with David Lee re-signed by the Knicks at some number below the max-salary amount.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...#ixzz0slFHLcf4

    What if Bosh and LeBron ended up in NY? Would they still have room for TP next summer?

    curry expires next year

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    What if Bosh and LeBron ended up in NY? Would they still have room for TP next summer?
    If you're assuming that Tony would get a max contract, probably not.

    Larry Coon, the CBA guru, did a live chat on ESPN yesterday. Someone asked if New York would have enough room to sign Melo next summer if they signed two max FAs this summer.

    Even if you assumed no major changes in the 2011 CBA and they got rid of everyone else besides Gallinari, they probably wouldn't have enough space for three max players, Gallinari, and a bunch of minimum contracts. If there is a substantial decrease in the salary, then there's no way.

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    tp wants to win
    tp by himself is not going to win a le
    tp and bosh would win games

    I agree they'd win games, I just don't see them winning games in June.

    This Spurs team with Splitter, Anderson, maybe a LLE vet added to the core could do it...this year, maybe next if TP sticks around.

    TP wants to win, no doubt. I gotta lot of love for TP and he hit some pretty clutch shots last year when needed most. That said, I think he wants to win while getting paid max dollars. Since I think we should expect him to return to playing international ball after he gets his contract, I don't think the Spurs will offer that.

    Personally, I'd look to see what the Clippers have, as that would be trading him to LA, where he could be with his wifey, and to a place where he would be getting max dollars easily. Just not sure who the Spurs could get or would want in return in that scenario.

    Who would the Lakers be willing to part with? (I know, the horror!)

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    With another capable sg now Anderson, Manu is even more expendable for an all star big . Anderson and Hill can cover the 2 guard spot and Bosh would be a big upgrade over McDyess/Bonner. The spurs are a better team replacing Manu with Bosh.

    But the spurs are not trading Manu and Bosh will not be coming to the Spurs just replying on the fact that you would not make that trade.
    I agree with the fact that the Spurs have some capable wing players, in Hill, and with Anderson who I think will be a stud.

    However, putting the clutch time, playoff pressure on a rookie and still developing GHill, the pressure that Manu has shouldered in the past and will shoulder again since I expect Pop to limit his minutes due to the aforementioned younger wings, but to expect the younger guys to step up and fill that role is very risky. Maybe they step up and hit a few shots, but Manu is just not that easily replaced man. We all saw his impact prior to his broken nose. That's a very very high level of play your proposing that George and the rook can replace.

    Of course Bosh is an upgrade over McDyess and Bonner, but I don't know that he's much of an upgrade over Splitter who I expect to sign shortly.

    Neither has played in the Spurs system yet, but I expect Splitter to fit in seamlessly once he learns the system.


    Seems like a good trade because it would be a good trade.

    He will also be a talent on the spurs.

    Just an emotional response. Heart and soul of the team is overrating Manu.

    You are failing to also consider the impact of acquiring Bosh would do to the impact of the team. Who says Splitter's decision rests on Manu being with the team.
    So it's still a bad trade imo. Bosh will be a talent anywhere he plays, but I don't think he impacts the game like Manu does. You take out emotion and just look at what Manu did at the end of last year and you realize the truth. And the quote was heart and soul of the team in crunch time. Of course Bosh would make the team better, but I think the Spurs championship hopes in the TD era are diminished greatly.

    And equally, who says Splitter's decision doesn't rest with Manu being on the team?

    Speculation on both sides.

    But I know if I was considering joining the Spurs and about to sign, when all of a sudden, they trade away one of my best buddy Scola's compadres, who's a proven baller, for a guy that is going to take alot of my minutes all of a sudden. I know i'd have second and maybe even third thoughts about staying in Europe.

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    didn't see posted in spurs forum

    some espn rumors (sources)

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5357607


    Sources: Raptors OK with Bosh to Cavs

    if true I don't understand tor logic to have rejected a supposed spurs offer including parker

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    raptors want players under contract because they know their players will bail once they get the chance. parker's contract will be up so they most likely will not want to lose him like bosh.

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    didn't see posted in spurs forum

    some espn rumors (sources)

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5357607


    Sources: Raptors OK with Bosh to Cavs

    if true I don't understand tor logic to have rejected a supposed spurs offer including parker
    I think it's more likely that Bosh didn't want to go to San Antonio. It sounds like he doesn't want to go to Cleveland, and they're somewhat similar situations- smaller markets (at least compared to NY, LA, Chi, etc.) who can win now, but where he may be buried a bit, both as an offensive option and media-wise.

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    raptors want players under contract because they know their players will bail once they get the chance. parker's contract will be up so they most likely will not want to lose him like bosh.
    thats an interesting take

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    I think it's more likely that Bosh didn't want to go to San Antonio. It sounds like he doesn't want to go to Cleveland, and they're somewhat similar situations- smaller markets (at least compared to NY, LA, Chi, etc.) who can win now, but where he may be buried a bit, both as an offensive option and media-wise.
    if true this guy is not interested whatsoever by winning which is pretty sad

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    if true this guy is not interested whatsoever by winning which is pretty sad
    How so? He can team up with Wade and have a good chance at winning. Or he could go to Chicago and win. Much more attractive cities and they can win.

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    How so? He can team up with Wade and have a good chance at winning. Or he could go to Chicago and win. Much more attractive cities and they can win.
    I thought toronto doesn't have interests in Miami players and.... well, I forgot the bulls this soap opera FA is driving me crazy

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    I thought toronto doesn't have interests in Miami players and.... well, I forgot the bulls this soap opera FA is driving me crazy
    Bosh could still go to Miami as a FA without a S&T. Hopefully this all becomes clearer by weeks end.

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    San Antonio is a hole for most top free agents.

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    I agree with the fact that the Spurs have some capable wing players, in Hill, and with Anderson who I think will be a stud.

    However, putting the clutch time, playoff pressure on a rookie and still developing GHill, the pressure that Manu has shouldered in the past and will shoulder again since I expect Pop to limit his minutes due to the aforementioned younger wings, but to expect the younger guys to step up and fill that role is very risky. Maybe they step up and hit a few shots, but Manu is just not that easily replaced man. We all saw his impact prior to his broken nose. That's a very very high level of play your proposing that George and the rook can replace.

    Of course Bosh is an upgrade over McDyess and Bonner, but I don't know that he's much of an upgrade over Splitter who I expect to sign shortly.

    Neither has played in the Spurs system yet, but I expect Splitter to fit in seamlessly once he learns the system.




    So it's still a bad trade imo. Bosh will be a talent anywhere he plays, but I don't think he impacts the game like Manu does. You take out emotion and just look at what Manu did at the end of last year and you realize the truth. And the quote was heart and soul of the team in crunch time. Of course Bosh would make the team better, but I think the Spurs championship hopes in the TD era are diminished greatly.

    And equally, who says Splitter's decision doesn't rest with Manu being on the team?

    Speculation on both sides.

    But I know if I was considering joining the Spurs and about to sign, when all of a sudden, they trade away one of my best buddy Scola's compadres, who's a proven baller, for a guy that is going to take alot of my minutes all of a sudden. I know i'd have second and maybe even third thoughts about staying in Europe.
    The spurs will not win another le with TD, Manu and Parker as their top 3 players. That window is closed.

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    San Antonio is a hole for most top free agents.
    Hard to land top free agents when you're over the cap and not able to offer top dollar contracts.

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    I'd say Tim Duncan was a top free-agent; definitely more so than Bosh who left his drafted team . . .

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    I'd say Tim Duncan was a top free-agent; definitely more so than Bosh who left his drafted team . . .
    +1 on TD, but I can't fault Bosh for wanting to leave the Raptors.

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    The spurs will not win another le with TD, Manu and Parker as their top 3 players. That window is closed.

    Your statement might be correct for two reasons. Firstly, I'm not sure Parker is gonna last the whole season as a Spur. Secondly, I expect Tiago to be counted as one of the Spurs top 3 players very shortly.

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