The United States of Movies

[CuckingFunt]

What imaginary consensus are your referring to?

Where did I indicate that my statement was based on anything other than my own opinion?

[CuckingFunt]

so basically, you have a personal preference of a type of character, or acting, in this case "subtlety"

and you dog on Pacino for this

I said Al Pacino was overrated. Remarkably so. And I'd say the same about any other actor who gets heaps of critical praise for repeatedly giving the same performance over the course of four decades.

[Zelophehad]

Never said anything was wrong with taking bits and pieces. I'm just saying that it's not basically Scarface. It's absolutely ing not. It has bits from everything. Like GTA SA did.

The Sopranos takes an absolute load from both of those movies I stated. Way more than Scarface borrows from anything.

[MiamiHeat]

I said Al Pacino was overrated. Remarkably so. And I'd say the same about any other actor who gets heaps of critical praise for repeatedly giving the same performance over the course of four decades.

do you think Tim Duncan is overrated too?

for garnering praise and collecting championships while doing the same, some say "boring", fundamentally sound basketball without changing ?

[Zelophehad]

Regardless of anything else in this thread, Glengarry Glen Ross ing kills. About this fact there is very little doubt.

http://members.rottentomatoes.com/m/...rry_glen_ross/

http://www.imdb.com/ le/tt0104348/

[Nathan Explosion]

The Sopranos takes an absolute load from both of those movies I stated. Way more than Scarface borrows from anything.

He was talking about Vice City.

do you think Tim Duncan is overrated too?

for garnering praise and collecting championships while doing the same, some say "boring", fundamentally sound basketball without changing ?

In sports, consistency is a good thing, especially when it's winning les. As an actor, playing the same role consistently shows a lack of range. A good actor wants to show range. Think Tom Hanks before and after Forrest Gump.

And no I'm not saying Hanks is better, it was just the first thing to come to mind, a guy who did comedies for the early part of his career turning to dramas and winning Oscars because of it. , the guy was THIS close to winning 3 Oscars in a row with 3 movies in a row (Philadelphia, Forrest Gump, and Apollo 13).

I've never had a desire to see Scarface btw. Doesn't appeal to me. Goodfellas was DAMN good though.

And for the person who said Gone With the Wind was probably the greatest, the AFI voted Citizen Kane as the greatest. And that was a GREAT movie. The cinematography was outstanding for its time. As a photographer, many of the scenes could have been made into stills and sold as posters, they were so beautifully shot.

[CuckingFunt]

do you think Tim Duncan is overrated too?

for garnering praise and collecting championships while doing the same, some say "boring", fundamentally sound basketball without changing ?

That's a horrible analogy.

[silverblk mystix]

Scarface sucked balls...

I don't in' know why in the world people liked this garbage...

The lead actor is a NON-latino and speaks with an overdone in' horrible quasi-cuban fake accent which annoyed me to no end...

his in sidekick walks around (also a NON-latino) with a WORSE in accent saying like---hey mang---

I could go on---but you get the point

[Veterinarian]

I never got the Citizen Kane hype. I understand it's a wet dream for a cinematography fan from the standpoint of introducing groundbreaking techniques and all. But its pretty much a snoozer for me tbh. I mean the life of a newspaper editor? zzzzzzzzzzzz. I know its about more than that, its about the symbolism of the sled and a yearning for childhood and all that but that still doesn't make me find it more interesting or insightful. Yeah, people can get caught up in the pursuit of money/status/power so what? Of course every time I say that on the internet a bunch of film snobs/nerds always call me names and insults my intelligence. The fact that their comebacks are always name calling and condescension is pretty funny since they're supposedly coming from a superior intellectual place.

[Veterinarian]

Scarface was great btw. That movie has like 9-10 awesome scenes and countless quotable lines. Also it got popular way before the rap/ hip hop movement annoyingly tried to adopt it. It was one of the first movies to really benefit from Home media (VHS, Laserdisc etc).

[monosylab1k]

Scarface still blows.

and Pacino was actually really good in You Don't Know Jack.

[monosylab1k]

Look you can criticize that movie for many things but to criticize for it having an over the top performance by Pacino totally and completely misses the mark.

There's good over the top and there's horrible over the top.

Good:

Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys
Joe Pesci in Goodfellas
Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs Of New York
Jack Nicholson in The Shining

Bad:

Al Pacino in Scarface
Al Pacino in Scent Of A Woman
Al Pacino in The Devil's Advocate
Al Pacino in Any Given Sunday
Al Pacino in The Recruit
Robert DeNiro in Cape Fear
Jack Nicholson in The Departed

[IronMexican]

Jack Nicholson's over the top in the Departed reminded me a lot of Frank Reynolds. Though Frank is good over the top.

[CuckingFunt]

I never got the Citizen Kane hype. I understand it's a wet dream for a cinematography fan from the standpoint of introducing groundbreaking techniques and all. But its pretty much a snoozer for me tbh. I mean the life of a newspaper editor? zzzzzzzzzzzz. I know its about more than that, its about the symbolism of the sled and a yearning for childhood and all that but that still doesn't make me find it more interesting or insightful. Yeah, people can get caught up in the pursuit of money/status/power so what? Of course every time I say that on the internet a bunch of film snobs/nerds always call me names and insults my intelligence. The fact that their comebacks are always name calling and condescension is pretty funny since they're supposedly coming from a superior intellectual place.

I always think that Citizen Kane is a good example of the difference between "best" films and "favorite" films. It is, I think, an absolutely brilliant film in terms of direction, acting, etc. And every time I watch it, I'm reminded of how good it is. That being said, it's not a particularly easy film to watch when you're looking for an evening of casual entertainment. I own it, and I'm glad I do, but I'm far more likely to grab Death Race (or one of several other mindless explosion fests) off the shelf if I'm just looking for a DVD to watch.

Scarface is actually a pretty good example of that difference, as well. I'd never fault anyone for enjoying that film, or Pacino's performance in it, but it's not a particularly well made or well acted film. In that case, I think "favorite" would be far more accurate than "best."

[CuckingFunt]

There's good over the top and there's horrible over the top.

Good:

Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys
Joe Pesci in Goodfellas
Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs Of New York
Jack Nicholson in The Shining

Bad:

Al Pacino in Scarface
Al Pacino in Scent Of A Woman
Al Pacino in The Devil's Advocate
Al Pacino in Any Given Sunday
Al Pacino in The Recruit
Robert DeNiro in Cape Fear
Jack Nicholson in The Departed

This.

And Daniel Day Lewis could get several more entries in both columns.

[MiamiHeat]

Scent of a Woman was an Oscar performance.

you two are in the vast minority

just admit you have a PERSONAL distate for it, instead of claiming the man is overrated

[Whisky Dog]

You movie snobs are so ing annoying. Burn in for trying to tell me what's good and what isn't. you all.

[MiamiHeat]

I always think that Citizen Kane is a good example of the difference between "best" films and "favorite" films. It is, I think, an absolutely brilliant film in terms of direction, acting, etc. And every time I watch it, I'm reminded of how good it is. That being said, it's not a particularly easy film to watch when you're looking for an evening of casual entertainment. I own it, and I'm glad I do, but I'm far more likely to grab Death Race (or one of several other mindless explosion fests) off the shelf if I'm just looking for a DVD to watch.

Scarface is actually a pretty good example of that difference, as well. I'd never fault anyone for enjoying that film, or Pacino's performance in it, but it's not a particularly well made or well acted film. In that case, I think "favorite" would be far more accurate than "best."

Citizen Kane sucked. One of the most uninteresting, boring movies I have ever seen.


For that matter, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest also sucks.

[MiamiHeat]

I never got the Citizen Kane hype. I understand it's a wet dream for a cinematography fan from the standpoint of introducing groundbreaking techniques and all. But its pretty much a snoozer for me tbh. I mean the life of a newspaper editor? zzzzzzzzzzzz. I know its about more than that, its about the symbolism of the sled and a yearning for childhood and all that but that still doesn't make me find it more interesting or insightful. Yeah, people can get caught up in the pursuit of money/status/power so what? Of course every time I say that on the internet a bunch of film snobs/nerds always call me names and insults my intelligence. The fact that their comebacks are always name calling and condescension is pretty funny since they're supposedly coming from a superior intellectual place.

This.

[monosylab1k]

You movie snobs are so ing annoying. Burn in for trying to tell me what's good and what isn't. you all.

It's not our fault you like ty movies.

[monosylab1k]

Scent of a Woman was an Oscar performance.

The Oscars have rewarded alot of terrible performances.

[MiamiHeat]

his in sidekick walks around (also a NON-latino) with a WORSE in accent saying like---hey mang---

I could go on---but you get the point

Steve Bauer (Manny, the "sidekick")

was born in Havana, Cuba.

good job, dip

[CuckingFunt]

Scent of a Woman was an Oscar performance.

you two are in the vast minority

just admit you have a PERSONAL distate for it, instead of claiming the man is overrated

Methinks you don't know the meaning of the word "overrated."

You movie snobs are so ing annoying. Burn in for trying to tell me what's good and what isn't. you all.

It's pretty insecure to think that someone else's personal opinion is meant as an insult to your own.

[MiamiHeat]

The Oscars have rewarded alot of terrible performances.

You're in the vast minority, just take comfort in the fact that you personally hate it, but the rest of us think he's among the greatest actors who ever lived

[MiamiHeat]

It's pretty insecure to think that someone else's personal opinion is meant as an insult to your own.

That's hilarious.

You have spent the whole thread trashing films and actors like Al Pacino and many of his movies

but then say

"You are insecure if you think my opinion is an insult to your tastes!"