Page 1 of 8 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 190
  1. #1
    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Post Count
    83,649
    Accusing Arizona of trying to "second guess" the federal government, the Justice Department on Tuesday filed a lawsuit challenging the state's immigration policy -- claiming the "invalid" law interferes with federal immigration responsibilities and "must be struck down."

    The suit names the state of Arizona as well as Gov. Jan Brewer as defendants. In it, the Justice Department claims the federal government has "preeminent authority" on immigration enforcement and that the Arizona law "disrupts" that balance. It urges the U.S. District Court in Arizona to "preliminarily and permanently" prohibit the state from enforcing the law, which is scheduled to go into effect at the end of the month.

    "Arizonans are understandably frustrated with illegal immigration, and the federal government has a responsibility to comprehensively address those concerns," Attorney General Eric Holder said in a written statement. "But diverting federal resources away from dangerous aliens such as terrorism suspects and aliens with criminal records will impact the entire country's safety."

    ...........

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...early-tuesday/

  2. #2
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117
    Looks like the federal government is fast becoming the enemy.

  3. #3
    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Post Count
    11,409
    Looks like the federal government is fast becoming the enemy.
    or republican governors are trying to make the President look bad.. wierd how they all stood up to obama and not bush.. couldn't be political in anyway.....

  4. #4
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    yeah, none of this happened while the Repugs were in power and DID NOTHING about securing the borders or resolving the status of illegal immigrants.

    Same story with federal deficits.

    And which Dem gov/AG are suing to stop the health care reform?

  5. #5
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,142
    Holder is gonna get his ass kicked. I hope it goes to court soon.

  6. #6
    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Post Count
    11,409
    yeah, none of this happened while the Repugs were in power and DID NOTHING about securing the borders or resolving the status of illegal immigrants.

    Same story with federal deficits.

    And which Dem gov/AG are suing to stop the health care reform?
    they didn't want the GOP congress or President to look bad..

  7. #7
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    Holder is gonna get his ass kicked. I hope it goes to court soon.
    I dunno. In my very unstudied opinion, it appears that matters of borders and protection fall pretty much in the exclusive purview of the Fed.

  8. #8
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    114,013
    Holder is gonna get his ass kicked.
    Why do you think so? I'd guess just the opposite. When states encroach on federal prerogatives, they usually get their asses kicked.

  9. #9
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    ^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^

  10. #10
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Post Count
    2,539
    State of AZ will win.

  11. #11
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    114,013
    Synchronicity is a .

  12. #12
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    114,013
    State of AZ will win.
    Why? B/c you want them to?

  13. #13
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117
    or republican governors are trying to make the President look bad.. wierd how they all stood up to obama and not bush.. couldn't be political in anyway.....
    LOL

    LOL

    LOL

    You joking? President Obama needs no help looking bad!

  14. #14
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Post Count
    2,539
    Why? B/c you want them to?
    Want? I have no wants in this. It is what it is.

    Either way, we get closer to the breaking point where logic will be the only option left on the table.

  15. #15
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,142
    The nice thing about the courts is they deal in facts.

    The state law simply mirrors the federal law. It says that if they suspect the persons they have detained for other crimes/transgressions are illegal they will inform the Feds for further investigation/enforcement. They aren't proposing to enforce Federal law.

  16. #16
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    114,013
    Can you amplify on that a bit? "It is what it is" isn't really a reason.

  17. #17
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    114,013
    The nice thing about the courts is they deal in facts.

    The state law simply mirrors the federal law.
    If AZ LE detains illegal aliens and binds them over to federal authorities, how is that not enforcing federal law?

    Also, it would seem to me that if the AZ law "mirrors" federal law AZ is straightforwardly arrogating a federal function to itself.

  18. #18
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,142
    If AZ LE detains illegal aliens and binds them over to federal authorities, how is that not enforcing federal law?

    Also, it would seem to me that if the AZ law "mirrors" federal law AZ is straightforwardly arrogating a federal function to itself.
    They will be initially detained for violation of state law.

    Arizona will simply call the feds in to do their job after that.

    Thats why I'm pleased it will be tried in a court and not an internet forum.

    Holder is gonna get his ass kicked.

  19. #19
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    114,013
    To say nothing at all of the international dimension of the furore. The AZ law could be taken as an untoward imposition on the US's foreign policy.

  20. #20
    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Post Count
    11,409
    LOL

    LOL

    LOL

    You joking? President Obama needs no help looking bad!
    why didn't these states challenge bush?

  21. #21
    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Post Count
    11,409
    Thats why I'm pleased it will be tried in a court and not an internet forum.

    Holder is gonna get his ass kicked.
    so states can now enforce laws that are exclusive to the fed govt halleluah!

    yeah holder is going to get his ass kicked..

  22. #22
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117
    why didn't these states challenge bush?
    He may not have been the smartest president, but he most certainly wasn't the dumbest, like Obama may take first place for.

  23. #23
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    114,013
    Thats why I'm pleased it will be tried in a court and not an internet forum.

    Holder is gonna get his ass kicked.
    Sir: you didn't answer my question.

  24. #24
    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Post Count
    11,409
    why didn't these states challenge bush?

  25. #25
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117
    so states can now enforce laws that are exclusive to the fed govt halleluah!

    yeah holder is going to get his ass kicked..
    Show me how immigration law is exclusive to the federal government please. I didn't take "piss on the cons ution 101."

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •