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Immigration law is a federal function. So is detaining people for violations thereof.
Did you actually read the law dumb ass?so states can now enforce laws that are exclusive to the fed govt halleluah!
yeah holder is going to get his ass kicked..
They aren't being detained for being "suspected illegal aliens".
They are stopped/detained for State law violations.
The State then informs the feds that they have what appears to be illegal aliens in their possession that then become the Feds responsibility to deal with.
The Feds then enforce Fed law.
The State isn't enforcing Fed law.
Immigration law is a federal function. So is detaining people for violations thereof.
so essentially nothing changes other than forcing local law enforcement to investigate possible federal crimes..
great waste of time and resources AZ..
I'm not going to continue to argue this in an ill-informed internet forum. Like I said, I'm glad Holder suc bed to political pressure and filed suit. He just stepped on his . He will get his ass kicked in court where it matters.
Making the administrative determination of someone's immigration status is also a federal function.
since you don't want to piss on the cons ution then I guess the 14th amendment is here to stay.. anchor babies will continue to thrive...because after all it's in the cons uion...you wouldn't want to piss on that would you?
you still haven't explained how his ass is going to get kicked... should we just take your word for it?
So anyone who disagrees about the possible outcome is "ill-informed." Impatient much?
Holder will definitely lose at the first trial simply because his legal argument is so vapid and weak. This whole charade is political and not legal. Unfortunately, however, he may prevail on the first appeal. Arizona falls in the 9th District which is notorious for writing law instead of ruling on law...Then, the lower court decision will finally be confirmed when it goes to the Supreme Court.
Well we can at least agree that this issue is a political charade and not legal..
What a ing dumbass post. The State makes a determination of su ion on persons arrested for other violations and calls the feds. The feds make the determination of immigration status and enforces immigration law as it sees fit.
And it's the current administration that is on the wrong side, therefore the ones definitely making this political.
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Dammit, I was going to respond to it too...
How you make a 'determination of su ion' (whatever that is) without actually attempting to verify citizenship, which is indeed a function of Immigration law?
Or does every citizen pulled over for a state violation, citizen or not, is automatically held until the feds can determine their citizenship/immigration status?
We don't see eye to eye. That doesn't make you, or me, a dumbass.
I fact-checked my own reply and came up short. Gotta be quick...
Any adult without a valid drivers license or any formal identification of any kind is a reasonable suspect. and don't give me that "what if he left it at home, "...in case you haven't noticed, cops have computers too. They can pull up a name/photo if the person is in the system.
Never want to live in that country. It's not the one I grew up in.
If I 'right-clicked-new-tab, I still would have had your words to quote. If I was faster thinking, I would have used the 'back" option.
Well, I was wrong and brought myself up short. The bill did not pass as originally proposed, and as a result I wrong-footed myself. You can take consolation in that.
It's not? You were required by law to have a birth certificate and social security number...You still have the opportunity to prove citizenship, but not having anything certainly establishes reasonable su ion.
How about people that run a red light, and have a driver's license that read 'Temporary Immigration Status' on them (I had one of those up to about 6 months ago). Do they get a ticket or do they get held?
You know, the cop's computer doesn't link to the immigration system.
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