RJ to Miami a possibility

**Bruno** · 07-07-2010

Miller + Beasley for RJ would sweet, but I'd think that Miller is going to be looking for a contract as big as RJ's. That would make it hard to get Beasley to SA as part of the package. Now if Beasley went to Washington instead of SA, that seems like that works nicely for all parties involved. RJ to Miami, Miller to SA, Beasley plus a small TE to Washington still sounds good to me.

I don't think Wizards would want to add Beasley to their locker room.

With their 4 non-guaranteed players, Spurs have a lot of flexibility. If RJ is paid $7M in his first year, Spurs could absorb $12.8M if they add these 4 players. Beasley salary is $5M so Spurs could pay Miller up to $7.8M in his first year.

**AFBlue** · 07-07-2010

Originally Posted by wildbill2u

There is a reason why a 2nd pick in the draft two years ago has fallen so far out of favor in Miami that even talking about a trade for RJ is a possibility.

If they don't see his upside after having him on the team for two years, why should we take him.

low risk, high reward player

He's got talent and if he were to go to a structured environment with strong veteran leadership and a disciplinarian coaching staff, he might be able to produce like his talent suggests he should.

**ohmwrecker** · 07-07-2010

I don't want Michael Beasley, but as long as we are fantasizing about third team S&T options, I say get the Clippers involved and get Travis Outlaw on this team. Don't forget about my boy, y'all!

**coyotes_geek** · 07-07-2010

Originally Posted by Bruno

I don't think Wizards would want to add Beasley to their locker room.

With their 4 non-guaranteed players, Spurs have a lot of flexibility. If RJ is paid $7M in his first year, Spurs could absorb $12.8M if they add these 4 players. Beasley salary is $5M so Spurs could pay Miller up to $7.8M in his first year.

I'm all for it if the Spurs can pull something like this off.

**coyotes_geek** · 07-07-2010

Originally Posted by wildbill2u

There is a reason why a 2nd pick in the draft two years ago has fallen so far out of favor in Miami that even talking about a trade for RJ is a possibility.

If they don't see his upside after having him on the team for two years, why should we take him.

Depending which side of the Ian Mahinmi debate you're on, you apparently need more than 5 years to proclaim someone a bust......................

**iManu** · 07-07-2010

Miami needs a 3 point threat at the 3.

**Magdalena M** · 07-07-2010

Beasley playing some minutes at small forward would be better than Keith Bogans starting 49 games-- as he did last year-- at any position.

**wildbill2u** · 07-07-2010

From those who know him best:

"Here's why there should be absolute confidence that Beasley will still be moved for the betterment of this team.
First, he doesn't appear wanted by the most important person in this organization, Dwyane Wade. If body language didn't say enough during the playoffs last season, then Wade's words certainly did, when he spoke of being tired of talking about Beasley and how much more the team needs from him. Wade wants no part of teaming with Beasley -- not if his goal is to win a lot more right away.
Second, it doesn't make much sense to keep a power forward when, one, you've already publicly begged Udonis Haslem to re-sign, and two, you're entering a free-agency period heavy in power forwards, one of which is assumed you'll be signing (and please don't sell me on the idea of Beasley playing small forward).
NOT IN PLANS
Why in the world would Beasley be in the plans when it just doesn't make sense? This organization already has spent two years beating its head against the wall when it comes to him, so entering the most crucial offseason in the team's history, you're already promising a third year of such frustration?
Fortunately, there's a huge loophole in Riley's statements -- that's if a loophole is even necessary when it's entirely possible Riley is simply lying to improve leverage in trade talks.
Riley said the team is not desperate enough to trade Beasley for more space. That's a matter of semantics, really. Maybe he didn't find a trading partner that is willing to absorb Beasley into their space and offer nothing in return.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/2...#ixzz0t2JAUFuz

**AFBlue** · 07-07-2010

Originally Posted by iManu

Miami needs a 3 point threat at the 3.

Well they're supposedly interested anyway, despite him apparently not being their first choice.

**Cane** · 07-07-2010

Beasley is an anti-Spur, don't need him here. He doesn't do anything on the court worth a damn.

Here's ESPN's Bill Simmons take on why no one should want Mike:

105. Michael Beasley
Hate to throw the "bust" word around after two years, so let's flip this around. You're watching the playoffs right now. Pretty compe ive, right? Other than scoring, you need to rebound, defend and play hard to advance. Beasley can't do any of those three things. Play an undersized power forward against him (like Glen Davis in Game 2) and he gets eaten up. Stick a small forward on him (like Paul Pierce) and he can't post that guy up. Stick a traditional power forward on him (like Kevin Garnett) and he can't beat that guy off the dribble or prevent the guy from scoring on the low post. So what's left? I don't see any conceivable scenario in which this guy has a meaningful NBA career. Could he put up stats on a bad team? Of course. Anything else, I'm not seeing it. All of Pat Riley's fidgeting during the 2008 draft now makes perfect sense.

If Dwyane Wade ends up leaving this summer, it's because of two reasons:

A. The teams that ended up with O.J. Mayo (3) Russell Westbrook (4), Kevin Love (5), Danilo Gallinari (6), Eric Gordon (7), Brook Lopez (10), Jerryd Bayless (11), Robin Lopez (15), Serge Ibaka (24), Nic Batum (25) and George Hill (26) wouldn't trade those guys for Beasley right now. That's a borderline catastrophe. They got the 13th-best guy in the draft at No. 2.

B. Riley didn't sell his Beasley stock in time. The window was February, when a panicking Suns team happily would have green-lighted Beasley (making $19.4 million from 2011-2013), Udonis Haslem's expiring deal and a protected 2010 No. 1 for Amar'e Stoudemire. If you're Miami, why not? Amar'e gets a taste of Miami for a few months; you get the chance to offer him a sixth year and more money; worst-case scenario, you have his sign-and-trade rights this summer; you can make a 2010 playoffs run with the Wade-Amar'e combo; and you potentially have a 2010-11 nucleus of Wade, Amar'e and Free Agent Star X.

If you're Wade, would you stick around and put your basketball prime in the hands of someone who just botched those two decisions? Or would you flip teams and opt for a safer situation? More on this later.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...simmons/100429

Would rather have RJ who seems much more professional, already has playoffs experience in the Spurs system, and worked out with Coach Pop over the summer. I would rather deal with his kind of problems than Beasley's. It'd probably take Beasley a season to adjust in the system as well and I can see Coach Pop absolutely destroying his already weakened psyche.

Beggars can't be choosers and hopefully the Spurs aren't at that point. Beasley seems like the anti-Spur, the type of guy that they wouldn't want to gamble on even though he's shown glimpses of talent and he's a forward.

**benefactor** · 07-07-2010

You guys act like he's on a five year deal or something. Beasley at 5 million is a bargain. If it doesn't work out is an expiring that can be moved at the deadline.

**HarlemHeat37** · 07-07-2010

I don't want Beasley, but taking his contract for another year or 2 is >>>> RJ for a potential 5 years..

**AFBlue** · 07-07-2010

Originally Posted by Cane

Beasley is an anti-Spur, don't need him here. He doesn't do anything on the court worth a damn.

Here's ESPN's Bill Simmons take on why no one should want Mike:

Would rather have RJ who seems much more professional, already has playoffs experience in the Spurs system, and worked out with Coach Pop over the summer. I would rather deal with his kind of problems than Beasley's. It'd probably take Beasley a season to adjust in the system as well and I can see Coach Pop absolutely destroying his already weakened psyche.

Beggars can't be choosers and hopefully the Spurs aren't at that point. Beasley seems like the anti-Spur, the type of guy that they wouldn't want to gamble on even though he's shown glimpses of talent and he's a forward.

Beasley's contract is guaranteed for this year only, while RJ would be re-signed on a multi-year deal at likely a couple million more per year than Beasley is making now.

I get it....he's the anti-Spur, but if the Heat are practically giving him away, why don't you take him? It's a low-risk proposition.

**AFBlue** · 07-07-2010

Originally Posted by benefactor

You guys act like he's on a five year deal or something. Beasley at 5 million is a bargain. If it doesn't work out is an expiring that can be moved at the deadline.

Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I don't want Beasley, but taking his contract for another year or 2 is >>>> RJ for a potential 5 years..

These two get it.

**mazerrackham** · 07-07-2010

Originally Posted by benefactor

You guys act like he's on a five year deal or something. Beasley at 5 million is a bargain. If it doesn't work out is an expiring that can be moved at the deadline.

this is the only reason that it wouldn't be terrible. If the Spurs can somehow turn it into a SF then I'd be happy.

**DPG21920** · 07-07-2010

Some people around here with their reasoning for RJ are killing me. Now that he has opted, re-signing RJ is the worst case scenario because no way he signs short-term.

Now that he has opted out, Spurs absolutely cannot bring him back. Sure it sucks to have some what of a hole at SF, but it is infinitely worse having RJ for 3+ years.

Anything>>>>>>>>>>RJ Long Term.

**coyotes_geek** · 07-07-2010

Originally Posted by AFBlue

Beasley's contract is guaranteed for this year only, while RJ would be re-signed on a multi-year deal at likely a couple million more per year than Beasley is making now.