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    Kind of strange given all this crazy money being handed out, but I just checked salaries and I can't find many teams who figure to be in salary dump mode. New Orleans, Philly, and maybe Toronto, and this board has beaten to death deals for Iguodala, Paul, and Bosh (not an option now obviously).

    What would it take for a team to sign-and-trade its free agent SF (like Mathews or Miller) into our trade exception, assuming RJ gets traded to Miami for one? Would cash be enough?

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    Also, like I said, RJ long-term is the worst scenario:

    1) TE for RJ in a S&T.

    2) SF for RJ in a S&T

    3) TE + SF for RJ in a S&T

    4)TE + Other player for RJ in a S&T

    5) Other player for RJ in a S&T

    6) RJ walks and the Spurs get nothing

    7) RJ long-term with the Spurs

    Those are pretty much all of the scenarios, and all seem better than RJ long-term

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    Recent Q&A with the "cancer" in question...sounds fairly professional to me.


    HoopsHype.com NBA Blogs - Raúl Barrigón
    Michael Beasley: “Sometimes my mistakes have been magnified”June 28, 2010 @ 5:47 am by Raul Barrigon


    What are your offseason plans?

    Michael Beasley: Working out. Get better. I’m going to play the summer league. Pretty much don’t stop. I haven’t had any vacation. I just went straight to working out. I feel I can do a lot to improve my game to help the team and take us further to the playoffs.

    Any special routine this summer?

    MB: No, I’ll use the regular coaches, assistant coaches.

    Did you see draft night?

    MB: Not at all. I was flying to Europe. I missed the draft, the U.S. soccer game… I missed everything (laughs).

    Do you like soccer?

    MB: I don’t follow soccer a lot, but I’m definitely interested about what’s happening in the World Cup.

    Right now there’s only two players with guaranteed contracts on the Heat roster: Mario Chalmers and you. Does it feel strange that it’s very possible that you’ll have almost a new entire team next season?

    MB: It’s crazy when you think about it. But you won’t see too many seasons like this. Some players might stay at the end, but it’s true that we might have almost a new roster next season. We’ll start over.

    How do you feel about Wade’s chances of staying in Miami?

    MB: I definitely feel that he’ll stay. He’s accomplished a lot in Miami, he won a championship and a Finals MVP… He already has laid his foundation.

    Among the big free agents, who would gell great with you and Dwyane?

    MB: Anybody. You know Chris Bosh… Amare Stoudemire would be great. Of course LeBron James would fit in right away. But as of right now we must grow as a team, get better and things will just work out.

    After two seasons, do you feel like you have become kind of a lightning rod for criticism during your career?

    MB: I do. Honestly, I don’t see why. Everybody makes mistakes and I feel like sometimes mine have been magnified. I feel like I’m expected to act older than what I am. I’m not saying that’s a reason to do some of the things I’ve done. But you know, I’m like everybody else: I make mistakes, learn from them and move on with your life.

    And after two seasons, your life has changed. You’re an NBA player. Do you still stick together with your old crew of friends?

    MB: Yeah. I don’t have too many friends. Actually I have a crew of two people: me and a buddy from high school.

    Ron Artest was often criticized during the season after signing with the Lakers, but after Game 7 of the Finals everybody was talking about how he had redeemed himself. Do you see that as an example or inspiration?

    MB: I don’t. You know, everybody has his own past. I’m following my own path, trying to execute my plan as well as possible and grow, not only as a player but as a person. Like I said before, everybody commits mistakes, and that’s how you build your character… What do you do after mistakes.


    Read more: http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/bar...#ixzz0t2VzaGnw

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    If the rumor of Lebron going to NY is true, Cavs could also be a good target for a RJ S&T. If Cavs don't decide to re-build via some tanking, adding RJ would make a lot for sense for them.
    True, but who would we want? Moon?

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    True, but who would we want? Moon?
    JJ Hack-son lol duuh

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    If the rumor of Lebron going to NY is true, Cavs could also be a good target for a RJ S&T. If Cavs don't decide to re-build via some tanking, adding RJ would make a lot for sense for them.
    Cleveland would make sense, Jefferson would fit on that type of team, since he would still get his touches and they wouldn't be serious about winning right now..

    What can they offer?..

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    One small problem with the Cleveland scenario. Why in the world would RJ want to go to a Lebron-less Cavs team?

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    Beasley is oozing potential. But he lacks heart and passion for the game. So this would definitely be a high risk move - but would still be a great one unless we can get that trade exception.

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    Recent Q&A with the "cancer" in question...sounds fairly professional to me.
    Honestly, when it comes to these types of articles, i havent read one that was optimistic sounding or professional. I remember way back in the days I would get excited reading about undrafted rookies just because they would reference Bowen taking the same path.

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    JJ Hack-son lol duuh
    They wouldn't trade JJ Hickson for Amare straight up last year.

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    One small problem with the Cleveland scenario. Why in the world would RJ want to go to a Lebron-less Cavs team?
    Why would RJ opt out of 15 Million? Who knows

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    6) RJ walks and the Spurs get nothing
    Still not seeing the good in this one.

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    Still not seeing the good in this one.
    I am not saying that it is good, I am saying it is not as bad as signing RJ long-term.

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    i am not saying that it is good, i am saying the dude does not abide.
    fify

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    I am not saying that it is good, I am saying it is not as bad as signing RJ long-term.
    I guess, for me, it depends on how "long-term" it plays out to be. I understand your position that RJ is a bad fit and he always will be, but I am not sure I can make that leap with you. I would be interested to see if he can turn it around.
    Honestly, I think RJ is a potentially a better option than a lot of the names that are being lofted around here.

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    One small problem with the Cleveland scenario. Why in the world would RJ want to go to a Lebron-less Cavs team?
    If the Cavs are willing to pay him what he wants, he'll go.

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    RJ didn't really "tie the room together".

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    I think Dorell Wright, for the LLE, would make the Spurs better than RJ.

    Like I said, losing RJ and getting nothing in return would be bad, but not catastrophic. Of course only having the LLE and a portion of the MLE (if that) is not a lot of money to fill a hole. But I think it can be done within reason where you don't see a drastic drop in production and impact from the SF spot.

    I think that is almost worse case scenario, with signing RJ to a long-term deal being the worst overall (all things considered.).

    Hopefully it does not come to that and options 1-5 somehow play out.

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    RJ didn't really "tie the room together".
    lol

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    There's a lot of ins, lot of outs, lot of what-have-yous to this deal. Mike Miller would be nice if they pulled that off. Don't think that would ever happen though. I just don't think Beasley would cut it here.

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    The issue with Bruno's scenario is that it likely puts the Spurs over the luxury tax threshold, if you assume they sign Splitter at MLE.
    With the cap numbers out and the tax threshold at 70 million, it's now a little more wide open.

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    I'd rather see them wait out NJ, but it wouldn't be a bad fall back option.
    Yeah, we need to hit up NJ and see what's up.

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    Cleveland would make sense, Jefferson would fit on that type of team, since he would still get his touches and they wouldn't be serious about winning right now..

    What can they offer?..
    Delonte West's contract has one year left at 4.5M. He can be bought out for 500K until August 3rd. That contract could serve in much the save way as a trade exception that expires in a month instead of a year. Add on Moon or Parker and you could have the basis for a deal.

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    Delonte West's contract has one year left at 4.5M. He can be bought out for 500K until August 3rd. That contract could serve in much the save way as a trade exception that expires in a month instead of a year. Add on Moon or Parker and you could have the basis for a deal.
    I heard West might be packaged in a deal with Phoenix for Barbosa and the Suns would buy him out.

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