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  1. #151
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    @Chazley, Why don't we give a chance to our new draftee James Anderson instead of Mason tihs year? We know what RMJ can provide us next year and it's not too much as it seems. So we have a new guy with high potential and maybe(most probably) he will be a better player than RMJ in the future. So why should we sign a long term contract with RMJ and take the chance of James?

    The only benefit of RMJ would be a sign&trade to Spurs. It seems there are some teams who want to sign him, we can get a swingman which they don't use in exchange of RMJ.
    Pop historically plays vets over rookies. Anderson, from scouting reports I've heard, might struggle on defense in the beginning. That means very little minutes for him.

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    ElNono, let me know when you find another 40% 3pt shooter to replace RMJ. Until then I'm done rehashing my points.

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    Pop historically plays vets over rookies. Anderson, from scouting reports I've heard, might struggle on defense in the beginning. That means very little minutes for him.
    Your "Pop historically plays vets over rookies" comment proves that not keeping RMJ is better for the team:

    If we can't find a good enough veteran to replace RMJ by paying veteran minimum(This is which you're claiming from the beginning), so he's going to use James Anderson.(There is no choice for him)

    If we keep both RMJ and James Anderson on roster, he will play with RMJ(due to your hypothesis on your last post) and it will avoid James Anderson's progress.

    So by going straight from your sentences, keeping RMJ won't be good for this team.

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    Pop historically plays vets over rookies. Anderson, from scouting reports I've heard, might struggle on defense in the beginning. That means very little minutes for him.
    And Roger Mason doesn't have his lapses on defense? Last I checked, Anderson was a pretty good defender when he didn't have to be the focal point of a team, unlike a certain player called Roger Mason.

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    Your "Pop historically plays vets over rookies" comment proves that not keeping RMJ is better for the team:

    If we can't find a good enough veteran to replace RMJ by paying veteran minimum(This is which you're claiming from the beginning), so he's going to use James Anderson.(There is no choice for him)

    If we keep both RMJ and James Anderson on roster, he will play with RMJ(due to your hypothesis on your last post) and it will avoid James Anderson's progress.

    So by going straight from your sentences, keeping RMJ won't be good for this team.
    For this year, I'd rather have a veteran getting minutes than an unproven rookie.

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    And Roger Mason doesn't have his lapses on defense? Last I checked, Anderson was a pretty good defender when he didn't have to be the focal point of a team, unlike a certain player called Roger Mason.
    Veterans don't get pulled because of their defense anymore. Case in point: Finley.

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    Veterans don't get pulled because of their defense anymore. Case in point: Finley.
    Doesn't make it right either. You don't have to twist reasons to convince others that Roger Mason is good for the team.

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    using Finley as a point to bring RMJ back.

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    I'm not sure why it's hard to understand that RMJ sucks. He was great when he got here, but he fizzled out in the playoffs. Who cares about his lack of minutes? What's that old cliche that players use when asked about their lack of playing time? "I'm just staying ready, mentally and physically to come in and give it my all when coach calls my number."
    RMJ couldn't do it. I don't care if he's the 8th, 9th, 12th man... He's a professional basketball player and if he can't do the job he's being paid to do, such as hit a 3pt shot, then it's time to move on. So he sucked in the playoffs in 09 because he was being "keyed on", yet he continued that suck during the regular season of 09-10. I highly doubt that he was being "Keyed on" during the regular season and he still was struggling to find his shot.
    I think you're (Chaz) making a huge mistake thinking that all of the posters on here hated him all season. We were all rooting for him to come out of his slump. He never did. There's a point where you have to cut your losses and look elsewhere (Hence the drafting of Anderson). He's provided us some great memories, but it wasn't enough. He's gotta go.

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    I'm not sure why this thread has gone as far as it has. Even if one can stretch to make some sort of argument for Mason, there are two very big reasons why he is not coming back.

    The Spurs do not have the money to sign him. Mason is not signing for the vet minimum and probably not the LLE either. This is all the Spurs have at thier disposal and if they do use the LLE they will use it on a veteran SF as that is currently the position that is the thinnest.

    The Spurs do not want his ass. Him going all emo and asking to be traded put the nails in his coffin with the Spurs...and from his own mouth he has said that they have not contacted him.

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    ElNono, let me know when you find another 40% 3pt shooter to replace RMJ. Until then I'm done rehashing my points.
    You and your thread were done about 6 pages ago.

    RMJ is not coming back, for reasons I and others have extensively explained to you in this thread. That you choose to be oblivious to them is really your problem.

    And we already have two other 37% shooters (when it matters, when RMJ only shoots 32%) that are both better defenders and more versatile.

    So it's really not surprising at all that the Spurs are not looking to bring Roger back. Good luck to him wherever he ends up in.

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    Because I'm grasping at straws, I'd rather have a veteran getting minutes than an unproven rookie.
    fify

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    chazley alias Roger ting troll on ST hilarious

    Mason full MLE

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    I will ask a local team here in Sweden to sign RMJ. They could offer him free meals on game days and free bus rides to games. Maybe they can offer him some pocket money as well. Problem is they already have a couple of pure shooters so they don't really need him.

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    YO CHAZ!!!!!

    Has there been one person to actually agree with you?...or are we all just ignorant Mason haters? If so, than I guess we should all just bow down to the CHAZMANIA!!!!

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    He is the #1 poster, after all.

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    Don't hate on me even though I went 15 on 1 in this thread and held my own, if not won the discussion. I definitely didn't lose the argument. ElNoNo came the closest to winning, but he consistently ignored everything except playoffs statistics, when Roger only got consistent minutes in 08-09 and only for about 3-4 games. Anyone is capable of having 3 bad games in a row, especially a shooter like Mason who was asked to play PG and be the 3rd best player on a winning team, which he is not capable of. It was simply too much to ask of him.

    I know the Spurs are not resigning him, I just explained why they should have.

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    Don't hate on me even though I went 15 on 1 in this thread and held my own, if not won the discussion. I definitely didn't lose the argument. ElNoNo came the closest to winning, but he consistently ignored everything except playoffs statistics, when Roger only got consistent minutes in 08-09 and only for about 3-4 games. Anyone is capable of having 3 bad games in a row, especially a shooter like Mason who was asked to play PG and be the 3rd best player on a winning team, which he is not capable of. It was simply too much to ask of him.

    I know the Spurs are not resigning him, I just explained why they should have.
    Roger come on, don't give up now you're close to get your 20 pages thread

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    I know the Spurs are not resigning him, I just explained why they should have.
    The Spurs aren't signing LeBron James either...that's why no one talks about why they should.

    You lose.

    /thread

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    Don't hate on me even though I went 15 on 1 in this thread and held my own, if not won the discussion. I definitely didn't lose the argument. ElNoNo came the closest to winning...
    Wish I could find the actual strip from Calvin & Hobbes:

    Calvin: "When a person pauses in mid-sentence to choose a word, that's the best time to jump in and change the subject! It's like an interception in football! You grab the other guy's idea and run the opposite way with it! The more sentences you complete, the higher your score! The idea is to block the other guy's thoughts and express your own! That's how you win!"

    Hobbes: "Conversations aren't contests!"

    Calvin: "OK, a point for you, but I'm still ahead."

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    Don't hate on me even though I went 15 on 1 in this thread and held my own, if not won the discussion.
    Denial's a good tactic. You must be a mavfan in real life.

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    Don't hate on me even though I went 15 on 1 in this thread and held my own, if not won the discussion. I definitely didn't lose the argument. ElNoNo came the closest to winning, but he consistently ignored everything except playoffs statistics, when Roger only got consistent minutes in 08-09 and only for about 3-4 games. Anyone is capable of having 3 bad games in a row, especially a shooter like Mason who was asked to play PG and be the 3rd best player on a winning team, which he is not capable of. It was simply too much to ask of him.

    I know the Spurs are not resigning him, I just explained why they should have.
    That's almost as far removed from reality as RMJ for the full MLE.


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    Don't hate on me even though I went 15 on 1 in this thread and held my own, if not won the discussion. I definitely didn't lose the argument. ElNoNo came the closest to winning, but he consistently ignored everything except playoffs statistics, when Roger only got consistent minutes in 08-09 and only for about 3-4 games. Anyone is capable of having 3 bad games in a row, especially a shooter like Mason who was asked to play PG and be the 3rd best player on a winning team, which he is not capable of. It was simply too much to ask of him.

    I know the Spurs are not resigning him, I just explained why they should have.

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    Haters gonna hate. No one made a point that I didn't have a good response to. The fact is, there's only 2 or 3 really good posters on this forum and I can dominate everyone else. If someone else makes a good argument that beats mine, or makes a good point, I'm willing to accept it. However, I crushed everyone who came my way in this thread and no one other than ElNono had a good argument. Everyone else just came in to bash me or RMJ while proving they don't have the knowledge to back me up.

    It's amazing how people with thousands of posts cant say something with more substance than 'get out' or 'you suck'. If you can't post something thoughtful then leave before I own you.

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    The Spurs aren't signing LeBron James either...that's why no one talks about why they should.

    You lose.

    /thread
    Lebron wasn't on the Spurs last year. Terrible comparison.

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