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    I see your point, and mostly agree. If the options were 1)Bonner 2)Shaq and 3) none of the above, then I would embrace 3 in an instant. Unfortunately, if the Spurs truly have intentions of going after the red rocket, as his agent suggested, and you turn this into either 1) or 2), then I have no problem starting to rationalize all the stuff we've been rationalizing for the past 4 or 5 hours...
    And if nothing else, it would be pretty enjoyable to have the Big Quotation around.

    Aww ... what the ! Bring on the Big Arroz con Pollo! (we're gonna have to work on the San Antonio nickname )

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    Spurs fans are letting the old hatred blind them. Shaq for the LLE or lower would be a nice pickup. Especially when the alternative is Red Rocket Bonner.
    Absolutely. However, I did read in one of the articles that Shaq wanted the MLE from the Spurs and more than the MLE from the Hawks.

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    in my opinion shaq would be worse then bonner at this point but na mean if were wining and shaq is on this team maybe people will stop saying the spurs are boring

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    And if nothing else, it would be pretty enjoyable to have the Big Quotation around.

    Aww ... what the ! Bring on the Big Arroz con Pollo! (we're gonna have to work on the San Antonio nickname )
    He would probably call himself The Big Alamo or something crazy like that.

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    And if nothing else, it would be pretty enjoyable to have the Big Quotation around.

    Aww ... what the ! Bring on the Big Arroz con Pollo! (we're gonna have to work on the San Antonio nickname )
    The Big Cabron!

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    I never liked Shaq...most of the time I hated him ...

    last coupla' years...didn't mind him so much...











    ...but IF getting Shaq means losing BONNER....







    I guess I will find myself rooting for Shaq....the world is getting really weird....

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    Absolutely. However, I did read in one of the articles that Shaq wanted the MLE from the Spurs and more than the MLE from the Hawks.
    Then pass.

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    Of course, if this is the Spurs' idea of creating leverage w/Splitter's representatives...

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    This has nothing to do with hatred (I've never been a fan, but I don't hate O'Neal), this has to do with fit and logistics.

    He'd be a terrible fit. He's immobile and has no shooting range, two problem areas for this front court already.

    Too many people think this is a video game. "For 10 mpg at the LLE"? It doesn't work like that. There's his larger than life personality, his massive ego (he wouldn't start or finish games on this team, how do you think that would sit with him?), the fact that Pop would feel the pressure to play him more than he should because he's one of the all-time greats, etc. Too many probable issues. Even in the event those issues were overcome, like I said, he's a terrible fit.

    Then there's the logistics. The only way the Spurs could afford him would be if they didn't sign Splitter. Who in their right mind would rather have O'Neal than Splitter at this point in their careers? So even if you're open to signing O'Neal, you shouldn't be rooting for it to happen.

    Not only do I not think the Spurs would sign him even if Splitter wasn't signed, I don't even think they'd waste time seriously entertaining the possibility.

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    Pretty much, TD. Pretty much.

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    The Big Shaq Jacinto.

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    Shaq is finished. He will be lucky to get through the season without a major injury.

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    This has nothing to do with hatred (I've never been a fan, but I don't hate O'Neal), this has to do with fit and logistics.

    He'd be a terrible fit. He's immobile and has no shooting range, two problem areas for this front court already.

    Too many people think this is a video game. "For 10 mpg at the LLE"? It doesn't work like that. There's his larger than life personality, his massive ego (he wouldn't start or finish games on this team, how do you think that would sit with him?), the fact that Pop would feel the pressure to play him more than he should because he's one of the all-time greats, etc. Too many probable issues. Even in the event those issues were overcome, like I said, he's a terrible fit.

    Then there's the logistics. The only way the Spurs could afford him would be if they didn't sign Splitter. Who in their right mind would rather have O'Neal than Splitter at this point in their careers? So even if you're open to signing O'Neal, you shouldn't be rooting for it to happen.

    Not only do I not think the Spurs would sign him even if Splitter wasn't signed, I don't even think they'd waste time seriously entertaining the possibility.
    You're post is re ed. All you are doing is posting everyone on here already knows hints why everyone says "if". For example, "if" he takes less money to play here or "if" he accepts his role as the 4th or 5th big on the team. Of course nobody wants him if he can't accept these things and not one single person said that they would take Shaq over Splitter either...

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    Shaq 2 year deal, Tim/Shaq retire with 6 rings a piece
    Plus, if he has to come play behind Duncan to win another, that cements Duncan's legacy over his.

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    You're post is re ed. All you are doing is posting everyone on here already knows hints why everyone says "if". For example, "if" he takes less money to play here or "if" he accepts his role as the 4th or 5th big on the team. Of course nobody wants him if he can't accept these things and not one single person said that they would take Shaq over Splitter either...
    That's it, I'm turning this into a two page spat...

    In all seriousness, I don't think everyone already knows this, as I said, I think a lot of people have a video game mentality when it comes to potential player acquisitions. That and a novice understanding of how parts fit, what's realistic, etc. I think a lot of people go "well, the Spurs need size and he's huge, plus he's still a serviceable player and better than, say, Bonner, so why not sign him?" Yet they either fail to take into account or don't realize the probable issues.

    I may not have a link to satisfy timvp, but I'm willing to go out on a limb and state it as fact that O'Neal can't accept those things. Anyone who's followed his career in recent years knows that. He'll promise the world, call Pop the greatest coach of all-time, call Duncan the best player of his generation, etc. He does the same thing over and over.

    You misunderstood me. Ostensibly, what I said was "if you want O'Neal, then you're essentially picking him over Splitter" because it's one or the other. It's more like they're doing it without knowing better because if they did, I assume they wouldn't want O'Neal signed.

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    Shaq wants to come to the Spurs for one final shot at Kobe before retiring. If he does come, he'll show up to camp out of shape, be a worthless POS until April, and generally cause us fits. But if we play the Lakers in the playoffs, he'll be an asset for us.

    Vet minimum or even LLE? Ok. MLE? gtfo

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    That's it, I'm turning this into a two page spat...

    In all seriousness, I don't think everyone already knows this, as I said, I think a lot of people have a video game mentality when it comes to potential player acquisitions. That and a novice understanding of how parts fit, what's realistic, etc. I think a lot of people go "well, the Spurs need size and he's huge, plus he's still a serviceable player and better than, say, Bonner, so why not sign him?" Yet they either fail to take into account or don't realize the probable issues.

    I may not have a link to satisfy timvp, but I'm willing to go out on a limb and state it as fact that O'Neal can't accept those things. Anyone who's followed his career in recent years knows that. He'll promise the world, call Pop the greatest coach of all-time, call Duncan the best player of his generation, etc. He does the same thing over and over.

    You misunderstood me. Ostensibly, what I said was "if you want O'Neal, then you're essentially picking him over Splitter" because it's one or the other. It's more like they're doing it without knowing better because if they did, I assume they wouldn't want O'Neal signed.
    well that makes sense. For the record Shaq>Splitter.

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    That's it, I'm turning this into a two page spat...

    In all seriousness, I don't think everyone already knows this, as I said, I think a lot of people have a video game mentality when it comes to potential player acquisitions. That and a novice understanding of how parts fit, what's realistic, etc. I think a lot of people go "well, the Spurs need size and he's huge, plus he's still a serviceable player and better than, say, Bonner, so why not sign him?" Yet they either fail to take into account or don't realize the probable issues.

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    I may not have a link to satisfy timvp, but I'm willing to go out on a limb and state it as fact that O'Neal can't accept those things.
    What kind of link would provide that "fact"?

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    yahoo reporting Shaq to Boston

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    I think if the spurs get him and Splitter it would be just enough to get the spurs by the lakers but the problem is he would be useless against any of the other top teams. Against the Lakers he could take out Bynum considering he pretty much got the better of Bynum in both games this year. Despite his old age he was able to get Bynum in foul trouble and also on defense Bynum can't post him up due to his huge size and thus is negated. A big man group of Duncan,Shaq,Dice,Splitter,Blair definitely could stop the Gasol,Bynum,Odom trio from getting tons of rebounds which is the key to beating the lakers.
    But.......who would stop or slow down Kobe?

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    im a crackhead, wrong o'neal lol..need sleeeeep

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