Playing with Duncan is easier for EVERY players!!
not only Tony...
Do you think anybody (you?) could have done the same thing?
Whether you like Tony or not is one thing, but you can't deny his BB level with such a BS argument...
It's a little bit difficult to forget that the Spurs went way into luxury tax territory for the first time because Tony Parker went public and complained about needing help. This is something that the team did in an attempt to make him happy. The thanks that they seem to have gotten on the heels of his subpar season "with help" is another public declaration that he won't even entertain the idea of signing an extension.
I didn't expect that from a guy with so many posts!!
You REALLY think they went over the luxury tax BECAUSE of Tony's comments or to "satisfy" him????!!
We all know that Tony is cold/honest when he speaks, but he just said in public what EVERYBODY was thinking! (fans, FO, Timmy, Manu...)
It was a no brainner we needed an upgrade to have a shot...
Tony didn't choose RJ ... and his contract!
Trade him.. Spurs have a 0% chance of winning in the next 5 years. They need to plan for the future and stop fighting with reality. Duncan is hobbled and old Parker is injury riddled Ginobli is still great but injury prone and getting long in the tooth
No, we need to trade him now
He's a knicks fan.
Me? no, never, but we'll lost Tony for nothing next year, so... do u really think we could win this year? better start rebuilding.
Jace is a knick fan. We won't lose Tony. Tony's hurt because his name comes up in trade rumors and he's emotional. Do you remember the saga with Jason Kidd? He was one of the prime reasons Kidd chose to stay in New Jersey. With the new bargaining agreement supposedly owner friendly, it will be in Tony's best interest to resign with the Spurs.
There is no such pe ion.
!
So many longtime posters on this thread speaking bull t and lies....
Makes me sick to see these posts and treads theses days compared to the same situation for Manu a Few times ago.
No Parker, no 5th ring.
I sign in Parker,
And hope for the Mle for splitter and thank god a shooting wing if RJ is nice enough to make a ST.
The rest is bull t.
When you think that if the FO would have listened to what some of YOU SAID 7 years ago, rings number 3 & 4 would'nt exist....
Sad times in ST.
Xap
Where's the pe ion to trade him?
Parker is a dime a dozen PG's. He's not getting any faster and might as well get something in return if he bolts next summer.
Don't buy it, look at the cavs. they're about to lost Lebron and get nothing in return.
lol @ all the butt hurt frenchies.
Not that Parker didn't help out a lot, we still would have won rings with Kidd.
Damn I hate Spurs fans sometimes.
The french thing has nothing to do with that. I've been on this board long before and a spurs fans since the 90's.Where's the pe ion to trade him?
Parker is a dime a dozen PG's. He's not getting any faster and might as well get something in return if he bolts next summer.
Don't buy it, look at the cavs. they're about to lost Lebron and get nothing in return.
lol @ all the butt hurt frenchies.
Parker is a dime a dozen PG's ?
Nice résume of your basketball knowledge. Thanks for sharing.
Xap'
lower the hate, increase ignore users
Don't worry. All the 2003 Spurs fans will be gone in a couple of years.
Funny. But who are they ?
Xap'
Hmm, the fact that Hill kept the starting job at PG only proves it.
Parker dribbling the ball for 20 secs and dancing around or Hill moving the ball? Hmm I think I'll go with the younger guy.
Goes to show how much of a Parker lover you are when its obvious to see how many good guards there are in the league. I could name at least 5 guards better or just as good as Parker.
I'll even stretch to 10.
To me, it wasn't much of a coincidence to see the spurs playing better at the end of the season when Parker got hurt..
thankfully, i believe the Spurs will make a decision on Parker based on basketball/business considerations and not the emotional knee jerk inclinations of fans.
Trading him makes sense if you have reason to believe he will not extend beyond next year AND you can orchestrate a deal that brings you near equal value (which cannot always be judged on face value).
If, however, you cannot get equal value, it makes sense to keep him and see how the team competes the coming season. This gives you the option of a trade mid season if you can improve the team, or, letting his contract expire and negotiating a sign and trade in the off season. complicating matters is the CBA renegotiation and the implications it presents.
If you are Parker and seriously want to move elsewhere, it may behoove him to seek an extension now via a sign and trade because there may not be as much money on the table under the new CBA.
Too many variables exist at this point to definively determine what course is best for the Spurs or for Parker. It's just a crap shoot at this point.
Those people framing TP as a "speed only" player are just flat-out wrong. When Parker came into the league he was that player. But, he developed a reliable mid-range jumpshot and teardrop floater for himself and became much more adept at making the right pass/finding open players.
Yes, most of his success to this point has been predicated on speed. But, as a player he has shown the motivation and capability to improve. I see no reason why Parker can't continue to develop and shift his game as he ages and loses speed.
I also think it's overreaction to talk about a player losing speed when he's just 28yrs old. Last year he dealt with a myriad of nagging injuries that severely hampered his effectiveness. I doubt something like that happens in the future.
I get that, but there's no denying that there's a good chance the spurs might be trying to shop Parker. I'm not hoping that they just rid themselves of Parker. I'm hoping that there's a deal out there that will make the spurs BETTER.
That's what im hoping for.
But i'm getting tired of Parker lovers who immediately dismiss the idea of trading him.
People who act like Tony is some easy to find commodity are wrong and misguided. He's an all star point guard and has been instrumental in the Spurs' success. And he's alot of fun to watch.
lol you guys are being Republicans in the way you're quoting me. but then again, most of you probably are Republicans. your taking a snippet of the quote without referring to the entire context of what i said. obviously, when you take that quote alone, it makes me wish i didnt phrase that the way i did
give me one realistic trade offer for Tony Parker, that would improve the Spurs now and in the future. Troy Murphy from Indiana? draft picks and cash from NY? thanks but no thanks
i do believe we should keep TP now at the risk of losing him next year. but that's because i believe we have a good shot at making the western conference finals this season.
and that's living for the moment. build for the future, but to get there you have to get through the moment.
there ought to be a good reason for throwing away a shot at the western conference finals this season. maybe there are good reasons, i'd just like to hear them. no need to call me an f'n idiot, i'm just a diehard Spurs fan that wants the best for his team. our team
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