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    http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...with+the+Spurs

    "The past four seasons, Bonner established himself as more than a 3-point shooting specialist with San Antonio. Player efficiency and plus-minus ratios have shown the Spurs tend to operate more productively with Bonner on the court.

    In six NBA seasons, he has averaged 6.7 points and 3.5 rebounds per game. Bonner ranks as the 16th-best 3-point shooter in NBA history, his .405 percentage tying him with Brent Barry and Mike Miller."

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    This is got damn horrible news. Bonner is a decent signing for LLE money. Four years and $14M or whatever the F is just stupid. He's a proven choker who should be a fifth bigman this season.

    Ungotdamnbelievable

    Scary thought: this means Tiago ain't coming.

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    yeah Bonner's out there for rebounding, like TP is out there to create for other players and rack up assists
    The only ones laughing are Gasol/Bynum/Odom... he's our PF.. at least defensively...

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    i knew it ah ah ah goodbye Ian the savior

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    By the way, you are all fools if you think they are paying this for the 'fifth' big.

    This means Pop and RC are sold on the Anti-Horry being a rotation big for us (probably the first one off the bench).

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    By the way, you are all fools if you think they are paying this for the 'fifth' big.

    This means Pop and RC are sold on the Anti-Horry being a rotation big for us (probably the first one off the bench).
    No doubt about it. You don't hand $3+ million to ride the pine.

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    Would you like to share? because they're is no way in Mason was ever a better defender than Bonner. Mason was trash. They are both unimpressive but Ill take Bonner everyday of the week over that piece of garbage Mason. At least Bonner shows up in the regular season. Mason doesn't do and then people blame it on pops "pg experiment" which somehow made mason forget how to shoot the ball.

    Absolutely, and we're not that far off. The problem is that Mason is a terrible defender so saying Matt is better amounts to saying horse is better than dog . At least as far as defense is concerned. I like matty. I even liked Mase. The problem is ty defenders who can't shoot have no place on the roster if you're serious about trying to contend.

    I wonder - how long before the Spurs can trade Bonner???

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    This is so ing sad... this is the 'big man' we just re-signed:

    Matt Bonner: career 3.5 rpg
    Tony Parker: career 3.1 rpg
    Well this could be because of MPG?

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    The only ones laughing are Gasol/Bynum/Odom... he's our PF.. at least defensively...
    I'm laughing. Matt Bonner gets a four year deal for $14M-$16M. You just can't make this kind of up.

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    For the vet min I said I'd be ok with it.

    Nothing I can do about it so I'm not gonna let it ruin my day off season or fandom as it does to these wahoos.

    Death, taxes, and TPark schlobbing the front office knob for overvaluing marginal Spurs organization end of bench fodder.

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    I don't know what's worse ... that the Spurs want to persist with Matt Bonner as the 3rd big on this team after his spectacular playoff failure, or that I'm having to read TPark's asinine posts and bigzak's bipolar drivel claiming that this is a good thing.

    Matt Bonner is at best the 5th big on a contending team. Paying him 14 million is confirmation that he will see meaningful minutes and get outplayed by every opposing big in the playoffs. I'd rather the Spurs rebuild than go through this for one more season.

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    Not to mention we could have had Richards for the rookie scale...
    So the Spurs choose the direction of the "double whammy" and not the direction of the..."double happiness"?

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    Without reading through every single post, does signing Bonner tie up ANY of the money for the MLE?

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    Well this could be because of MPG?
    He averages 18mpg. 3.5 rebounds in nearly 20 mins.

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    The only ones laughing are Gasol/Bynum/Odom... he's our PF.. at least defensively...
    you want Bonner to be as good as any of those?

    how much does the least of them make? 12 mill?

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    you want Bonner to be as good as any of those?
    No silly, I want him to be able to guard any of those, since he's going to be getting the minutes on the floor against them.

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    Imagine if Tiago doesn't come over because the Spurs wouldn't pony up the MLE for him.

    That means they will have passed on having Splitter and Scola next to Tim in the front court and given Bonner $22 million to be Tim's front court wing man

    If I were Tim I'd demand a trade.

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    you want Bonner to be as good as any of those?

    how much does the least of them make? 12 mill?
    You think at 4 million a year Bonner won't be asked to guard them? Wake up.

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    Imagine if Tiago doesn't come over because the Spurs wouldn't pony up the MLE for him.

    That means they will have passed on having Splitter and Scola next to Tim in the front court and given Bonner $22 million to be Tim's front court wing man

    If I were Tim I'd demand a trade.
    to miami? but yea if bonner is the reason we lost out on scola and splitter

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    The thing that scares me is bonner has no upside and does not help the spurs win now. If they are willing to give him a long term deal when they have to rebuild in a year or two, then I can see them bringing rj back.

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    Bonner stretches the other team's defense with his 3 pt shooting. That's why he's important. We're not likely to find a better 3 pt shooting big man who is available. He's also highly coachable, and hence has gotten BETTER on defense since being in SA, but that's not really why he's there. The deficits people highlight (Interior defense and rebounding) are not what Bonner was signed for. The hope is that Splitter will solve these deficits, but obviously that's an unknown - even if he is signed, and I think he will be, we won't know how good he will/can be until he plays.

    I think Ian is probably gone. He's proven himself to be injury prone and not a fast enough learner.

    McDyess is a good rebounder and defender, but he's older and slower than a lot of guys he's asked to defend. So I expect a third C to be the Spurs top priority - probably Splitter.

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    Disagree about the skill-set being detrimental. The success of Pop's offensive system is heavily reliant on spacing. I mean, how many times did we say that RJ absolutely killed the Spurs because he wasn't in the right place or couldn't make the shots when he was in the right place. Bonner provides the spacing for Tim, Tony and Manu to operate in the paint. And he converts on a greater majority of those shots than any other Spur.

    Am I thrilled about his performance in playoff situations...no it kills me. But, don't delude yourself into thinking the Spurs would fill out a roster without having that skill-set included. So, if not Bonner then who for the money they had available?
    How many threes did DRob shoot? Will Perdue? Kevin Willis? Rasho? Nazr?

    Yeah, that's what I thought.

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    Without reading through every single post, does signing Bonner tie up ANY of the money for the MLE?
    No, since he has played for the Spurs for more than 3 years or more, we have his "Bird rights." However.....

    .... this might preclude us from using our LLE because once we use our full MLE, we might be in Luxury Tax territory.

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    A good move by Spurs.
    The Spurs would not be able to find a player who can shoot 40% from three for the vet minimum. Bonner would be able to do that. He also plays hard and tries on defense. Although he is atrocious at defense, the Spurs should still bring him back. Despite his choke job in the past 2 playoffs, he is still very helpful to the Spurs.

    Please, Spurs, give Matt Bonner another chance.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158112

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    don't panic guys, I see what Pop is doing, he will play Matt SF ! ah ah ah no need of a solid SF we have bonner !!!!

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