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    [quote=Chomag;4491792]NBA teams are loading up and this is our FO's first set of business.

    Miami grabs lebron and Bosh but Spur counter with a Bonner signing, that's pretty fairly even right?[/quote

    its like they have to keep him basically because he was the guy the kept over scola

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    You can't just say "Bonner... noooo!" without context. The real question is not the value of Matt Bonner, it's his value compared to the replacement you could get at that price. You also have to factor in the time and energy to get the replacement to learn the system and fit into the team's style and strategy.

    You can't really get NBA-capable NBA-experienced non-disruptive non-head-case hard-working big men at a much lower price than this. Name me one and I'll shut up.
    They had one on the Spurs last year named Theo Ratliff who signed for the veteran's minumum and who did a pretty good job for the Bobcats when he was traded.

    This has got to be a nightmare. Bonner, the choke artist, for 4 more years and with a raise. From David Robinson to Matt Bonner. What a waste of Duncan's last 2 years.

    Maybe I should become a Miami Heat fan seeing as I live in Miami. What is the FO thinking? I wonder if Splitter is not coming and they're desperate.

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    redonkulous

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    Yep, look at the bright side people. We get to watch him playoff choke at least 4 more times.

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    Question 1: Who else would have offered Bonner this money?
    Legit question. Common sense would say no one, but you never know these days.

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    Help me understand -- he only shot 27 threes in the playoffs and made 10 for a .370 %. Given the small sample size and the not unrespectable 3P%, why is everyone saying he's a playoff choke artist?

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    Help me understand -- he only shot 27 threes in the playoffs and made 10 for a .370 %. Given the small sample size and the not unrespectable 3P%, why is everyone saying he's a playoff choke artist?
    can't blame the Big 3. they are gods

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    Maybe I should become a Miami Heat fan seeing as I live in Miami. What is the FO thinking? I wonder if Splitter is not coming and they're desperate.
    Splitter is coming.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158408

    By the way if you want to be a Miami fan, no respect to you

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    I still have a little hope that 4th year of his contract is not fully guaranteed at least.

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    Help me understand -- he only shot 27 threes in the playoffs and made 10 for a .370 %. Given the small sample size and the not unrespectable 3P%, why is everyone saying he's a playoff choke artist?
    You'd probably understand if you watched the games

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    Wow resigned and with a raise.

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    I called it. The Spurs needed Matt Bonner back. Kori closed my thread.

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    You'd probably understand if you watched the games
    I did.

    Can anyone offer a real explanation? I'm new here. Maybe unintelligent trolling is just the way things are.

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    I just don't understand this. I've been a Spurs fan since around 1988-89, but this love affair with Bonner just blows my mind. DO THEY REALLY THINK THAT HE CAN HELP A TEAM WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP? What part of choker/defensive lightweight/soft in the lane do they not see?

    As someone else said, once Duncan stopped drawing double teams down low, WHAT GOOD DOES A SPREAD 4 do us?

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    With Splitter, TD, McDyess, and Blair, Bonner should finally be in the proper role for him in the NBA, as the 5th big.

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    5th bigs don't sign 4 year deals for (presumably) $3.5 or $4 million.

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    With Splitter, TD, McDyess, and Blair, Bonner should finally be in the proper role for him in the NBA, as the 5th big.
    As long as Dice doesn't break down, I'd like to think you will be right. No reason for Bonner to be ahead of Tim, Tiago, or a sophmore Dejuan.

    But Dice is only getting older, and Pop is only getting more senile.

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    I did.

    Can anyone offer a real explanation? I'm new here. Maybe unintelligent trolling is just the way things are.
    when that's all you bring to the table 37% isn't cutting it - see below

    Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    Playoffs
    Conference Semi-Finals
    May 09 vs. PHX2 L 101 - 107 30 5 - 6 2 - 3 2 - 2 1 2 3 0 0 0 3 3 14
    May 07 vs. PHX2 L 96 - 110 19 4 - 6 3 - 4 0 - 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 11
    May 05 @ PHX2 L 102 - 110 15 0 - 4 0 - 3 0 - 0 0 3 3 1 1 2 1 2 0
    May 03 @ PHX2 L 102 - 111 13 1 - 2 0 - 1 0 - 0 1 2 3 0 0 0 1 0 2
    First Round
    Apr 29 vs. DAL1 W 97 - 87 12 2 - 4 0 - 1 0 - 0 1 6 7 1 0 0 1 4 4
    Apr 27 @ DAL1 L 81 - 103 22 2 - 5 2 - 5 0 - 0 0 6 6 0 0 1 0 2 6
    Apr 25 vs. DAL1 W 92 - 89 8 0 - 2 0 - 2 0 - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0
    Apr 23 vs. DAL1 W 94 - 90 15 0 - 3 0 - 1 0 - 0 1 2 3 0 0 0 0 2 0
    Apr 21 @ DAL1 W 102 - 88 20 3 - 6 2 - 5 0 - 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 2 8
    Apr 18 @ DAL1 L 94 - 100 19 2 - 6 1 - 2 0 - 0 2 2 4 1 0 0 0 4 5

    he needs 70% to make up what he gives up doing this


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    What part of choker/defensive lightweight/soft in the lane do they not see?
    This is just a guess, but maybe they use statistics to see how the team performs when he's in the lineup. Maybe, just maybe, they employ paid professionals to evaluate the performance of a team on a level that transcends your emotional evaluation of what you yell at the TV. Omg, I bet they even use Excel! With macros!!!

    As someone else said, once Duncan stopped drawing double teams down low, WHAT GOOD DOES A SPREAD 4 do us?
    Have you seriously been watching basketball since 1989? It allows for easier penetration. What would generate more points, 3 on 3 or 100 on 100. Less players out there leads to a more efficient, higher scoring offense. See the NHL for a real-world example.

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    What the .

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    when that's all you bring to the table 37% isn't cutting it - see below

    <stats cut>

    he needs 70% to make up what he gives up doing this
    Your picture's not loading, but I assume it's a picture of him playing bad D. Yes, his D is not good, but it's more than made up for by what he creates on offense. It just baffles me that so many basketball fans can be unaware of what he provides for the Spurs. Are there no statistics guys on this forum? Am I going to have to become that guy? I've perused that think tank forum, there are clearly a lot of intelligent people in there. I'd rather one of them come here to defend this signing than me have to put in the effort to do it.

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    I AM ING PISSED OFF. ING IDIOTS in the SPURS FO. They even ing give him a raise.

    YOU WON't ING SIGN STEPHEN JACKSON for more than 3 million a season, but you ING HAVE NO PROBLEM SIGNING MATT BONNER FOR MORE. What are these guys thinking? What happened to the if you don't perform in the playoffs then you are out???? Spurs are all about the playoffs, not regular season. WTF.


    ING, STUPID STUFF.

    Then again that salary could be used in a trade, but who would take a long term Matt Bonner contract?

    He is the confidence maker for anyone he guards. NBA players who are down on their confidence could pay Bonner to raise their games.

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    ha! it's starting to look i will not be buying the league pass this year...

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    They resigned bonner to give handjobs during half time, that doesnt come cheap

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    I AM ING PISSED OFF. ING IDIOTS in the SPURS FO. They even ing give him a raise.

    YOU WON't ING SIGN STEPHEN JACKSON for more than 3 million a season, but you ING HAVE NO PROBLEM SIGNING MATT BONNER FOR MORE. What are these guys thinking? What happened to the if you don't perform in the playoffs then you are out???? Spurs are all about the playoffs, not regular season. WTF.


    ING, STUPID STUFF.

    Then again that salary could be used in a trade, but who would take a long term Matt Bonner contract?

    He is the confidence maker for anyone he guards. NBA players who are down on their confidence could pay Bonner to raise their games.
    I thought Sjax turned down the contract we offered?

    anyways, I'm looking forward to more of the famous Ice meltdowns in the game threads this upcoming season...

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