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    Pop has been working with RJ one on one prior to the opt out so this is no great suprise. Now, its time for RJ to get the 2nd year fix.
    Who else has Pop ever worked one and one with and what were the results?

    So Pop never worked one on one with RJ last year?
    Or maybe he did and we saw the result.

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    RJ had a rough year. Most players struggle their first year with the Spurs. I think he may surprise many this year. At least he won't (or should not) be asked to play PF anymore.

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    The FO doesn't want this info out. Once LeBron fell, the picture became clearer everywhere else. Spurs had a plan and started excuting it last night.
    Overpay Bonner for too many years. Overpay Richardson for too many years. Sounds like a plan to me.

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    Those guys will sign more than LLE, which we can offer most. We can't find a decent player instead of Jeff with LLE.

    We don't have a legit shot at winning le with RJ. But winning le doesn't mean everything. We have a legit shot to reach WCF, which is not bad. And if we can sign with Shaq and Splitter becomes a perfect fit as we hope, we have a chance against Lakers too.
    How is my idea of signing a guy like Bell for the LLE not make sense to you, but signing Shaq + Tiago does?

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    Who else has Pop ever worked one and one with and what were the results?

    So Pop never worked one on one with RJ last year?
    Or maybe he did and we saw the result.
    Do players tend to struggle in their 1st years as a spur? Do they usually improve during there 2nd season? I don't understand what you are getting at. Pop and RJ will approach this thing differently and he is by far the best option we have for the position. Letting him walk for nothing would have been absolutely idiotic.

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    drop the whole sources fiasco, seriously. The "source' is a in joke. Mcdonald's "imminent" tweet was at the exact same time you posted your great news. You have a source good for you.... or you don't. doesn't matter

    Good for McDonald.

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    By no means is he a lockdown defender but I thought his defense continued to improve steadily as the season progressed. Having Splitter join Tim in the paint will only help the cause as well. Like I said... he definitely isn't the best player for us, but he is a lot better than anything we can realistically bring in. Hairston will get plenty of chances to show what he can do and if we bring in another wing at the LLE they might be able to provide some of that D or 3 ball your talking about, but letting him walk for nothing was definitely not the best choice for us.
    In terms of winning this next year? You are correct in saying RJ for nothing is not the "best" option. But when you look at what that means, and take the future into consideration, I think it is pretty obvious you don't resign him.

    Spurs would have just been happy to keep RJ this last year and then let him walk next year imo. If that is true, you don't sign him for an extra 3 years just to get that marginally better year this year.

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    Good for McDonald.
    Does his statement bother you?

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    Does his statement bother you?

    No. But me being right really torqued you enough to go out of your way to quote and say something.

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    How is my idea of signing a guy like Bell for the LLE not make sense to you, but signing Shaq + Tiago does?
    Tiago signs for MLE, not LLE.

    Shaq may want to play next to Duncan for LLE, we don't know. He may accept a 3M paycut. It's not too much for him, he earnt nearly 200M form his previous contracts. But maybe he won't, but it's more likely than Bell. Becuase lot's of teams may want Bell and nearly all of them have MLE(which we don't)

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    Do players tend to struggle in their 1st years as a spur? Do they usually improve during there 2nd season? I don't understand what you are getting at. Pop and RJ will approach this thing differently and he is by far the best option we have for the position. Letting him walk for nothing would have been absolutely idiotic.
    There's just so much hate in the forums right now. If you will read all posts there's very few posters that support the moves the Spurs are making. As Lebron would say "I can count them with my hands!"

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    I wanna see the contract. I don't mind him for next season, but past that... hmmm...

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    In terms of winning this next year? You are correct in saying RJ for nothing is not the "best" option. But when you look at what that means, and take the future into consideration, I think it is pretty obvious you don't resign him.

    Spurs would have just been happy to keep RJ this last year and then let him walk next year imo. If that is true, you don't sign him for an extra 3 years just to get that marginally better year this year.
    I am not arguing that... although I do feel the Spurs had something to do with RJ opting out of his contract. I don't think RJ would have left 15 mil on the table if he didn't have at least 1 thing lined up. The Spurs were glad RJ opted out and were happy to re-sign him since they are now not paying the ridiculous luxury tax penalty they were paying last season.

    3 or 4 years from now will this have been the best choice? who knows? but they are trying to win now. for duncan. they will not disrespect him and start to rebuild while he is still our leader.

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    Tiago signs for MLE, not LLE.

    Shaq may want to play next to Duncan for LLE, we don't know. He may accept a 3M paycut. It's not too much for him, he earnt nearly 200M form his previous contracts. But maybe he won't, but it's more likely than Bell. Becuase lot's of teams may want Bell and nearly all of them have MLE(which we don't)
    So Bell won't get the LLE but Shaq will settle for it. Hmmmm.

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    We're basically the same team as last year, minus Mason, plus Splitter... does that look like it would have avoided being swept by the Suns?

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    No. But me being right really torqued you enough to go out of your way to quote and say something.
    You can't just ever be the bigger man? Pride wise.

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    No. But me being right really torqued you enough to go out of your way to quote and say something.
    You were right about posting a link to a pre-existing story? Cool bro.

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    plus, assuming the Spurs want to resign Tony ( I dont care about all the damn rumors about him leaving). RJ's contract coming off the books still wouldn't mean much next season if they have the Big 3 all under new contracts....

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    He might be better than the other options for 1 season, but if he's signed to 4 or 5 years, maybe even 3(one of these options is obviously likely), I will be sick..

    His shooting obviously has to improve, that will help his game out a lot, but I don't see how else he will improve here, IMO..

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    I am not arguing that... although I do feel the Spurs had something to do with RJ opting out of his contract. I don't think RJ would have left 15 mil on the table if he didn't have at least 1 thing lined up. The Spurs were glad RJ opted out and were happy to re-sign him since they are now not paying the ridiculous luxury tax penalty they were paying last season.

    3 or 4 years from now will this have been the best choice? who knows? but they are trying to win now. for duncan. they will not disrespect him and start to rebuild while he is still our leader.
    If they are trying to win now, letting RJ walk and filling that spot with ........... does not ruin your chances hardly at all production wise. His numbers and impact are easily replaceable.

    It is not disrespect to Tim to let a bad fit go. The Spurs are already starting to rebuild. They are also trying to win. RJ does nothing for either imo.

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    You can't just ever be the bigger man? Pride wise.
    lol.

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    So Bell won't get the LLE but Shaq will settle for it. Hmmmm.
    Is it a problem in your mind? I said it's a bigger possibility than Bell. Shaq won 4 times more money than Bell in his career and I think that he can accept a paycut to play in Spurs, but Bell doesn't.

    Shaq stated that he wanted to play next to Duncan last week. Now we have only LLE and if he really want to play here he may accept it. I don't say it's a very likely deal, but there's a good chance about it.

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    We're basically the same team as last year, minus Mason, plus Splitter... does that look like it would have avoided being swept by the Suns?
    Definitely not. but we still have the LLE and min. contracts if we decide to bring in another piece. Plus, Hill and Blair will only get better. Jefferson will hopefully improve drastically but already having a year under his belt and having Tony on a contract year and healthy will be a huge help for us.

    staying optimistic.

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    Oh 'yay'

    Always has to be someone on the ing roster I loathe.

    Maybe will not be the pathetic son of a he was more often than not this past season.

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