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    And he played a total of 0 min in 2007 finals !
    Matt Bonner played a total of 25 minutes in the ENTIRE postseason during the 2007 playoffs/finals.


    That is a 2.8 minuet per GAME average.

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    This big red sandwich hunting-disappearing act got 4 years?!!! RC and co must be smoking some good to even offer that...dude can't even guard his own shadow in a phone booth...I bet bonnet was surprised when his agent called him too...let's get splitter signed asap so I can start feeling good about our offseason again.

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    McDyess is gonna retire after this year more than likely.

    So that leaves you still with a 4 big back court and room to consider Ryan Richards (If we sign and keep him) after a year or two in the d-league/european leagues to consider if he is a going to be able to jump over and be NBA ready and contribute to the spurs front court. Otherwise in a season or two the spurs will be looking at someone else to bring in for additional help and it doesn't hurt to have a guy like Bonner on the books that can step in off the bench and is reliable enough throughout the regular season to rest some of the core starters.

    Seems okay to me long term.

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    The only way giving Bonner more than $10 million guaranteed is if the Spurs are going to trade away McDyess before the start of the season. Otherwise, if Bonner is the fifth big, his salary wouldn't be worth the difference between what he gives you and some scrub like James Singleton, Tim Thomas, Steve Novak, Josh McRoberts, Jonathan Bender or even Connor f'in Atchley gives you.
    There really isn't a place for that kind of logic within the Spurs FO.

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    The math shows that Bonner shot 38.5% in the playoffs. That's well above average. His role is to be a shooter and spread the floor for TD, Manu, and TP to operate in the lane. He's not paid to be a defensive stopper. Brent Barry wasn't a defensive stopper either. Brent's 3pt % and Bonner's 3pt % are almost the same. All the Bonner haters prove is that they have no clue how NBA basketball is played. Re-signing Bonner is good for the Spurs because we need shooters big time. That's what he does and that's why he earned this new contract. Kyle Korver is a shooter too and somebody is going to pay him the MLE.
    Please do not compare Bonner to Barry. Barry was a great passer and could play the point guard position. Have you forgotten that he was one of the 7 man rotation that played the last quarter of game 7 of the NBA Finals. God forbid that Bonner ever play in such a pressure-packed situation. No one left Barry open at the 3 point line as they do with Bonner and no NBA player ever said, "Just give the ball to whoever Barry is guarding." I don't care what Bonner's +/- stat is or what his 3 pt % is, the fact is that he has no heart and chokes in the playoffs.

    I hope the Spurs aren't thinking of trading Dice. I know he didn't do much in the regular season, but he was fantastic against Dirk. I don't think Spurs make it past the Mavs last year without Dice. And Dice has a lot of heart.

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    spurs should trade mcdyess, then the new team would buy him out, and then he can go join the heat. i want to see him at least get one more chance to win a championship.

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    This is the most pathetic move by this FO in ages. I don't think this FO deserves the constant credit that it's given. It's a pathetic move of desperation pure and simple.

    There is no logic to it no matter how you look at it.

    Sad sad day in silver-and-black land.

    If we trade Dice because Bonner needed more money I will vomit.

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    Motherf*****.... are the spurs really trying to up this franchise by keeping this piece of ?.... I don't fukn get it anymore... are we the fans the only ones that noticed bonner wasn't worth a last season?.. I mean does the FO need a good slap in the back if the head? If this asshole sees minutes he shouldn't deserve next season, u can count on a repeat season of last year.. and those that defend this asshole, ur outa ur brains....
    And you aren't worth a as a fan, either. Pop and RC know what they're doing. You, on the other hand, are a freakin' moron.

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    This is the most pathetic move by this FO in ages.
    Not quite as bad as two-years and $5 million for a completely washed up Michael Finley.

    Then again, maybe it is. We haven't seen the final numbers yet.

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    Not quite as bad as two-years and $5 million for a completely washed up Michael Finley.

    Then again, maybe it is. We haven't seen the final numbers yet.
    the fact that my friends babies will be in kindergarten and Bonner will still be on this team is a ing travesty

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    the fact that my friends babies will be in kindergarten and Bonner will still be on this team is a ing travesty

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    the fact that my friends babies will be in kindergarten and Bonner will still be on this team is a ing travesty
    That put it in a funny perspective for me.

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    I'll reserve to groan a little depending on further info on exactly how the contract is laid out. Right now I'm not excited but i'm also not throwing a fit over this signing. Partial guaranteed money in the last year of the contract or team option wouldn't sound bad. Also the scale of the contract where it starts at.

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    the fact that my friends babies will be in kindergarten and Bonner will still be on this team is a ing travesty
    My daughter will be in high school by the time he's gone...that is...if they don't re-up him with another raise. By the time he is gone she will be able to actually understand why dad spent so much time mad at the computer/TV.

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    It's a total abortion. I exceeded my phone data coverage for the billing period on my phone so I could not post and rant from work. I've been waiting all ing day to rant about what an amazingly horrible move this is.

    It makes no sense from any angle. We are witnessing this team shift its goals from championship to just making the playoffs. I know we're on decline hardcore but cementing that fact by committing four ing years to Bonner makes me sick.

    Nothing personal against him he just does not belong on this team.

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    Please do not compare Bonner to Barry. Barry was a great passer and could play the point guard position. Have you forgotten that he was one of the 7 man rotation that played the last quarter of game 7 of the NBA Finals. God forbid that Bonner ever play in such a pressure-packed situation. No one left Barry open at the 3 point line as they do with Bonner and no NBA player ever said, "Just give the ball to whoever Barry is guarding." I don't care what Bonner's +/- stat is or what his 3 pt % is, the fact is that he has no heart and chokes in the playoffs.

    I hope the Spurs aren't thinking of trading Dice. I know he didn't do much in the regular season, but he was fantastic against Dirk. I don't think Spurs make it past the Mavs last year without Dice. And Dice has a lot of heart.
    How do you define "No heart" and "chokes in the playoffs"? Provide specific examples. Bonner's role has always been to be a shooter...that's it. That's what morons like you don't understand. Our team desperately needs shooters. Bonner has been one of the top 5 NBA 3pt shooters over the past two seasons. You don't find 40% 3pt shooters hanging around any street corner. Our team has always won championships with shooters. Go back to Kerr, Jaren Jackson, Ferry, and Barry were all dead-eye shooters but gave us nothing on defense. I never heard anybody claim they were chokers or hard no heart. It's because their role was to be the designated gunner while on the floor. That's what Bonner's role is plain and simple. He's not being re-signed to be a defensive stopper or a shot blocker deluxe or an enforcer. His contract is very decent and doesn't hurt the team's payroll at all. We keep our MLE for Splitter and the LLE for another player. In addition, we remain well below the luxury tax.

    This is a good move by the Spurs.

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    I can't for the life of me understand why the Spurs are bringing back Bonner. The days of Tim Duncan seeing a constant double-team are over. So, why hold on to a player that doesn't bring absolutely anything else but three-point shooting back? Bonner's ing 6'10'' but has the game of Chase Budinger, Matt Carroll or J.J. Red .



    When will they learn that adding or keeping another young, athletic big man was a more pressing need than keeping this guy? God forbid that Duncan, Splitter, McDyess or Blair suffer any serious injuries next season. Then we'll be stuck back at square one with Bonner playing extended minutes and a bigger role.


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    How do you define "No heart" and "chokes in the playoffs"? Provide specific examples. Bonner's role has always been to be a shooter...that's it. That's what morons like you don't understand. Our team desperately needs shooters. Bonner has been one of the top 5 NBA 3pt shooters over the past two seasons. You don't find 40% 3pt shooters hanging around any street corner. Our team has always won championships with shooters. Go back to Kerr, Jaren Jackson, Ferry, and Barry were all dead-eye shooters but gave us nothing on defense. I never heard anybody claim they were chokers or hard no heart. It's because their role was to be the designated gunner while on the floor. That's what Bonner's role is plain and simple. He's not being re-signed to be a defensive stopper or a shot blocker deluxe or an enforcer. His contract is very decent and doesn't hurt the team's payroll at all. We keep our MLE for Splitter and the LLE for another player. In addition, we remain well below the luxury tax.

    This is a good move by the Spurs.
    The problem is bonner does next to nothing on the floor other than shoot 3 pointers and that kills the team when your center is just chucking up 3 point shots and is useless in areas that a center needs to be good at.

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    The sig says it all!!

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    This bull is right up there with the day we signed bill curley.

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    Let me add the proper disclaimers on this post:

    How do you define "No heart" and "chokes in the playoffs"? Provide specific examples (1). Bonner's role has always been to be a shooter...that's it(2). That's what morons like you don't understand. Our team desperately needs shooters. Bonner has been one of the top 5 NBA 3pt shooters over the past two seasons(3). You don't find 40% 3pt shooters hanging around any street corner(4). Our team has always won championships with shooters. Go back to Kerr, Jaren Jackson, Ferry, and Barry(5) were all dead-eye shooters but gave us nothing on defense. I never heard anybody claim they were chokers or hard no heart. It's because their role was to be the designated gunner while on the floor. That's what Bonner's role is plain and simple. He's not being re-signed to be a defensive stopper or a shot blocker deluxe or an enforcer. His contract is very decent and doesn't hurt the team's payroll at all(6). We keep our MLE for Splitter and the LLE for another player. In addition, we remain well below the luxury tax(7).
    1) Career 31.8% shooter in the playoffs. At that rate, you let Manu or Hill take those shots and they'll make more than Bonner.
    2) Except the part where he doubles as our PF defensively and creates a huge hole in the interior, to the point of other players calling out to give the ball to whoever Bonner is guarding.
    3) ...during the regular season. He's top 1000 during the playoffs.
    4) It looks like the Spurs can't find 40% 3PT shooters when they need them either.
    5) None of which was a 'big' and played in the paint. Horry is the exception. Bonner is not Horry, obviously.
    6) If it's the numbers that were thrown out there, he might hurt the Spurs's ability to offer a compe ive extension to Parker.
    7) Again, if the numbers that were thrown out there are correct, we would be OVER the luxury tax.

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    The math shows that Bonner shot 38.5% in the playoffs. That's well above average. His role is to be a shooter and spread the floor for TD, Manu, and TP to operate in the lane. He's not paid to be a defensive stopper. Brent Barry wasn't a defensive stopper either. Brent's 3pt % and Bonner's 3pt % are almost the same. All the Bonner haters prove is that they have no clue how NBA basketball is played. Re-signing Bonner is good for the Spurs because we need shooters big time. That's what he does and that's why he earned this new contract. Kyle Korver is a shooter too and somebody is going to pay him the MLE.
    it's actually 37%, but that's not nearly the point - if he didn't play as many minutes as he usually does, he'd be less of a liability and worth more to the team as a 3 point shooter. Horry was able to play more without causing harm because he brought defense and rebounding with his 3 point shooting.

    Bonner's defense, rebounding and offense (outside his 3's) are a major hit to the balance needed for the Spurs to succeed. Again, if he didn't log so many minutes, it would not hurt the Spurs as much.

    we need defenders more than we need shooters right now.

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    The problem is bonner does next to nothing on the floor other than shoot 3 pointers and that kills the team when your center is just chucking up 3 point shots and is useless in areas that a center needs to be good at.
    Yes, but Bonner's value is being useful in areas that most 4/5 players usually aren't. i.e. 3pt shooting.

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    Kyle Korver plays in the perimeter. If he screws up, it's not directly a layup. He's also not expected to rebound the ball or guard bigger players. He also got a 3 year deal. He also averages 37% 3PT shooter in his career, with his last two playoff outings showing 46% and 48% 3PT shooting.

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    By the way if you want to be a Miami fan, no respect to you
    It was a joke. Do you think that I'd do that if I'm in a Matt Bonner thread when everyone around me is talking about the Heat? The worse part for me is that there's no way I'll be able to afford my 2 behind the visitors bench tickets when the Spurs come to town. The tickets will be unavailable or outrageously expensive :-(

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