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    The spurs may have just completed their entire off-season agenda.

    http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/spurs.jsp


    Tim Duncan $18,835,381
    Tony Parker $13,650,000
    Manu Ginobili $11,854,584
    Antonio McDyess $4,860,000
    DeJuan Blair $918,000
    George Hill $854,389
    Malik Hairston $854,389 (No / Partial Guarantee)
    Alonzo Gee $762,195 (No / Partial Guarantee)
    Garrett Temple $762,195 (No / Partial Guarantee)
    Curtis Jerrells $762,195 (No / Partial Guarantee)
    Sub-Total $54,113,328

    Richard Jefferson $6,300,000 (5yr/$37M - must be more than MLE / 5 years)
    Matt Bonner $3,325,000 (4yr/$15M - must be raise and /4 years)
    Tiago Splitter $5,765,000 (5 yr/$34M - assume full MLE)
    James Anderson $1,134,500 (Rookie Scale)
    Ryan Richards $473,604 (Minimum rookie contract)
    Total $70,111,432

    Tax Threshold $70,307,000

    It looks like the Spurs are done, 15 players (Richards, Jerells and Gee as our 13 - 15)

    I am sure if something comes up they would be willing to upgrade the roster, but they are sooooo limited as to their choices as they are currently simply filling up with minimum contracts. Therefore any upgrade will have to be a trade and will have to be one that doesn't increase salary. Bi-Annual Exception is out even a vet minimum contract may put them over the tax threshold.

    This may or may not be a championship roster, but i believe this is an upgrade over last year.

    Big Three
    T. Duncan should be slightly worse than last year (Age)
    T. Parker should be better (Injury and no international play this summer)
    M. Ginobili should be slightly worse (Age)

    Support 2010
    G.Hill should be better (maturity)
    D.Blair should be better and get more minutes (maturity)
    R.Jefferson should be better (incorporated into system)
    J.Anderson should be better than RMJ (can't be worse)
    T.Splittger should be improvement and take more minutes (see below)
    M.Bonner - same - but fewer minutes (Splitter/Blair)
    McDyess - worse with age but fewer minutes (Splitter/Blair)

    In addition, we can't forget that our roster was completely overturned last year and that couldn't have had a positive effect. Just being together for year could make a big difference.

    If splitter turns out to be MARC Gasol i think we have a chance at the Lakers, if Splitter is any less we are doomed, any better is wishfull thinking but i am an optimist by nature.

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    Even with Tiago coming in and making great impact, Spurs still have the same glaring problem as last year; a terrible fit at SF.

    Unless they decide to use the LLE which is looking less likely (unless the Bonner, Tiago & RJ contracts come back favorable), or unless Malik or Gee or someone like that steps up big, the Spurs are still lacking 3 point shooting and a perimeter defender.

    I hope they can find a few more nice pieces to balance the roster because the SF problem is large one looking at things as of now.

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    The spurs may have just completed their entire off-season agenda.

    http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/spurs.jsp


    Tim Duncan $18,835,381
    Tony Parker $13,650,000
    Manu Ginobili $11,854,584
    Antonio McDyess $4,860,000
    DeJuan Blair $918,000
    George Hill $854,389
    Malik Hairston $854,389 (No / Partial Guarantee)
    Alonzo Gee $762,195 (No / Partial Guarantee)
    Garrett Temple $762,195 (No / Partial Guarantee)
    Curtis Jerrells $762,195 (No / Partial Guarantee)
    Sub-Total $54,113,328

    Richard Jefferson $6,300,000 (5yr/$37M - must be more than MLE / 5 years)
    Matt Bonner $3,325,000 (4yr/$15M - must be raise and /4 years)
    Tiago Splitter $5,765,000 (5 yr/$34M - assume full MLE)
    James Anderson $1,134,500 (Rookie Scale)
    Ryan Richards $473,604 (Minimum rookie contract)
    Total $70,111,432

    Tax Threshold $70,307,000

    It looks like the Spurs are done, 15 players (Richards, Jerells and Gee as our 13 - 15)

    I am sure if something comes up they would be willing to upgrade the roster, but they are sooooo limited as to their choices as they are currently simply filling up with minimum contracts. Therefore any upgrade will have to be a trade and will have to be one that doesn't increase salary. Bi-Annual Exception is out even a vet minimum contract may put them over the tax threshold.

    This may or may not be a championship roster, but i believe this is an upgrade over last year.

    Big Three
    T. Duncan should be slightly worse than last year (Age)
    T. Parker should be better (Injury and no international play this summer)
    M. Ginobili should be slightly worse (Age)

    Support 2010
    G.Hill should be better (maturity)
    D.Blair should be better and get more minutes (maturity)
    R.Jefferson should be better (incorporated into system)
    J.Anderson should be better than RMJ (can't be worse)
    T.Splittger should be improvement and take more minutes (see below)
    M.Bonner - same - but fewer minutes (Splitter/Blair)
    McDyess - worse with age but fewer minutes (Splitter/Blair)

    In addition, we can't forget that our roster was completely overturned last year and that couldn't have had a positive effect. Just being together for year could make a big difference.

    If splitter turns out to be MARC Gasol i think we have a chance at the Lakers, if Splitter is any less we are doomed, any better is wishfull thinking but i am an optimist by nature.
    Good overall post. The spurs are still thin on the frontline. I knew no major additions from last years team outside of what they got in the draft.

    The spurs basically just improve the team through their draft picks. Look at the roster and all their top players are aquired with their draft picks while other teams load up thru Free agency and trades.

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    Spurs front office putting too much faith in an aging Big Three with McDyess. Really think the Spurs need to get bigger on the front line.

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    Im fine if they have faith in guys like Hairston/Temple and possibly Gee. They just might be better options than anything we can find on the market. I still expect us to use our LLE on someone. Hopefullly a James Jones.

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    Spurs front office putting too much faith in an aging Big Three with McDyess. Really think the Spurs need to get bigger on the front line.
    They are trying to bring in Splitter. Plus they re-upped Bonner's huge body.

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    Spurs will still likely sign a cheap vet SF. Some of the players with a non-guaranteed contracts will be waived.

    IMO, Dorell Wright is the best option but he could be too expensive and/or Spurs could be scared by his off the court issues. There are other options wiht my favorite one being James Jones.

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    Even with Tiago coming in and making great impact, Spurs still have the same glaring problem as last year; a terrible fit at SF.
    Unless they decide to use the LLE which is looking less likely (unless the Bonner, Tiago & RJ contracts come back favorable), or unless Malik or Gee or someone like that steps up big, the Spurs are still lacking 3 point shooting and a perimeter defender.

    I hope they can find a few more nice pieces to balance the roster because the SF problem is large one looking at things as of now.
    I agree that RJ was terrible most of the time in 2009-2010 but he also had glimpses of what the spurs intended him to be when they signed him. I do believe RJ well be much better this go around with him having one season under his belt in this system. I am also hoping that Tiago can help with the interior defense which in turn would help with the lack of a great perimeter defender. All in all, I like the roster and I expect 50-55 wins during the regular season.

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    Im fine if they have faith in guys like Hairston/Temple and possibly Gee. They just might be better options than anything we can find on the market. I still expect us to use our LLE on someone. Hopefullly a James Jones.
    I don't know if they will use the LLE. It will depend on the Bonner/RJ/Tiago contracts. If all the numbers come out near what has been reported, they will be very close to the LT. I am not sure they venture into that territory.

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    wait...did we sign RJ yet?

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    I agree that RJ was terrible most of the time in 2009-2010 but he also had glimpses of what the spurs intended him to be when they signed him. I do believe RJ well be much better this go around with him having one season under his belt in this system. I am also hoping that Tiago can help with the interior defense which in turn would help with the lack of a great perimeter defender. All in all, I like the roster and I expect 50-55 wins during the regular season.
    I expect the same amount of wins, but we are trying to win a le and we have to only look at that.

    Is this a team with a legit shot at this point? Not so sure. Those glimpses you saw imo, were simply because RJ has talent overall, not because those were games where you saw him fitting in. When you have talent, every once and a while you will have a nice game overall.

    But it is far more telling the numbers over the course of the season. A lot of players have problems in their first year with the Spurs, but often times you see a steady stream of things that give you hope they fit into the system. What you saw from RJ was what you have seen his entire career; shaky 3PT shooting and defending. RJ used to be a very solid defender, but age has caught up to him in that regard. But he was never a very solid 3PT shooter over the course of his career. He did have a great year with the Bucks, but that seems to be an outlier.

    Like I said, I think the Spurs are still a very good team and will be better next year and I am cool with that. But if the FO is saying "we are going all in to win a le", then some of their moves leave you scratching your head at this point.

    It is still a long ways off though and many things happen such as trades and buyouts and we don't know the specific contract numbers for Bonner, RJ & Tiago just yet.

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    Spurs will still likely sign a cheap vet SF. Some of the players with a non-guaranteed contracts will be waived.

    IMO, Dorell Wright is the best option but he could be too expensive and/or Spurs could be scared by his off the court issues. There are other options wiht my favorite one being James Jones.
    Do you think if you just swapped Wright with RJ, that the Spurs are a better team?

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    Surely the Spurs can get a better fit than RJ?

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    Spurs will still likely sign a cheap vet SF. Some of the players with a non-guaranteed contracts will be waived.

    IMO, Dorell Wright is the best option but he could be too expensive and/or Spurs could be scared by his off the court issues. There are other options wiht my favorite one being James Jones.
    Agreed, and if i am not mistaken the Spurs don't have to have all 15 spots filled either and that could give them a little more flexibility.

    Nevertheless to find an impact player it is going to be tough. One exception could be a trade that involves McDyess and future picks to get another impact player but i simply don't expect that to happen. Maybe this shake-up in the NBA over the last two days could create an unseen opportunity.

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    giving the scrub matt bonner a pay increase, ruin of trial any short term 10 day contracts to scrubs

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    you mean like Iguodala?

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    Spurs will still likely sign a cheap vet SF.
    The centerpiece for the vet min?

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    Before last year we would always see tons of posts that would say that a player usually does not fit into the Spurs system until the second year. I suggest we try and give RJ the same la ude that we would have given every other player before him. For me last year was not unusual for RJ as a first year Spur player. This year is the time that we should expect RJ to meet expectations.

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    Agreed, and if i am not mistaken the Spurs don't have to have all 15 spots filled either and that could give them a little more flexibility.
    yes, Spurs can only carry 13 players to get more flexibility.

    Nevertheless to find an impact player it is going to be tough.
    Agree. Spurs have done 90% of their summer with the draft and these 3 signings. While I think Spurs will still add a vet, this player shouldn't have a significant impact on the team.

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    The centerpiece for the vet min?
    I would say that the first quality of this vet will be his shooting, so no to The Centerpiece™ .

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    Spurs in talks with Shaq heating up, dont know if its serious or chatter to get Splitter to come down on his number. I would love to have both.
    Doesn't make sense if were resigning Bonner.

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    Doesn't make sense if were resigning Bonner.
    We could move Dice... would be a bad move, IMHO, but we could.

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    We could move Dice... would be a bad move, IMHO, but we could.
    True. S&T with cleveland I guess.

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    Spurs will still likely sign a cheap vet SF. Some of the players with a non-guaranteed contracts will be waived.

    IMO, Dorell Wright is the best option but he could be too expensive and/or Spurs could be scared by his off the court issues. There are other options wiht my favorite one being James Jones.
    what's your guess on Dorell's price?

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    I would say that the first quality of this vet will be his shooting, so no to The Centerpiece™ .
    Jerry Stackhouse?

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