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    oh wait, law school is all about argument...

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    There is nothing worse than a lawyer interested in politics. No offense.

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    Feel free to ignore the facts in that chart above as well. Feel free to ignore the facts entirely. This is the norm with conservatives...so it is understandable
    LOL

    OMG, that's what I mean. You are an absolute idiot with a room temperature IQ!

    "Ignore the facts in that chart..."

    My God... What facts? Those are predictions. Even 2009 won't be reconciled until something next year at the earliest.

    ing dum .

    Keep up you idiotic posts, and every now and they I will hand you your ass. There is no way in you are smart enough to hand me my ass.

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    LOL

    OMG, that's what I mean. You are an absolute idiot with a room temperature IQ!

    "Ignore the facts in that chart..."

    My God... What facts? Those are predictions. Even 2009 won't be reconciled until something next year at the earliest.

    ing dum .

    Keep up you idiotic posts, and every now and they I will hand you your ass. There is no way in you are smart enough to hand me my ass.
    You have never left a debate/argument with me with the upper hand. As a matter of fact, I find that you are good for very little other than spouting the same rhetoric that Fox news spouts every day...so your worth about as much. I thought you were going put me on ignore? That would be better for you, but when it comes to me, Id prefer to keep you on full blast

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    There is nothing worse than a lawyer interested in politics. No offense.
    politics is not policy. policy is where my interest lies. politics are killing this country. learn the difference.

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    Are you for some successful families that pass their wealth on, or do you want to tax more than 40% of someone's wealth when they die, so as to redistribute wealth?
    are you for american men and women dying to line the pockets of a few of the wealthiest families in the nation/world?

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    http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/Ch...last_1011.html

    You two need to think about learning good citizenship.

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    are you for american men and women dying to line the pockets of a few of the wealthiest families in the nation/world?
    how do men and women die to line the pockets of a few?

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    how do men and women die to line the pockets of a few?
    americna servicemen and women die. Big oil and Big defense make money. But the real story is the mony raked in by investors/shareholders.

    Cheney's Halliburton stock options rose 3,281% last year, senator finds
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    An analysis released by a Democratic senator found that Vice President Cheney's Halliburton stock options have risen 3,281 percent in the last year, RAW STORY can reveal.
    Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) asserts that Cheney's options -- worth $241,498 a year ago -- are now valued at more than $8 million. The former CEO of the oil and gas services juggernaut, Cheney has pledged to give proceeds to charity.

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    open your eyes, spursncowboys

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    Do you have a clue how much money Halliburtion lost because of their war contracts?
    americna servicemen and women die. Big oil and Big defense make money. But the real story is the mony raked in by investors/shareholders.

    Cheney's Halliburton stock options rose 3,281% last year, senator finds
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    An analysis released by a Democratic senator found that Vice President Cheney's Halliburton stock options have risen 3,281 percent in the last year, RAW STORY can reveal.
    Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) asserts that Cheney's options -- worth $241,498 a year ago -- are now valued at more than $8 million. The former CEO of the oil and gas services juggernaut, Cheney has pledged to give proceeds to charity.
    Wild Cobras Ass handed to him.

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    BTW, that was for 2004-2005, and the quote is from the article cited above. And the SILENCE IS DEAFENING. Chalk one up for the good guys.

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    Wild Cobras Ass handed to him.
    LOL...

    You kill me with your stupidity.

    Did you see what he does with the profits? Did you know he got all this while he worked for them?

    I guess you wouldn't be happy unless all republican politicians shed all their assets and lead a life of poverty.

    Did you know, the more you read Raw Story, the more IQ points you lose?

    Besides, not only is the story 5 years old, the three stock options have expired.
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    lol parker.

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    Parker: you realize WC and I have both gone to war?
    EDIT: took out the bag part.
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    Such a silly argument. Not denying that it's possible that monied interest was the justification for war, but that is some weak factual evidence.

    If cynicism is justifiable evidence, then we can believe that agw is just a law to enrich al gore's pockets, and that bill clinton's earned fortune from the chicoms did illustrate that he sold us out for campaing contributions.

    Fortunately for you, this is not ample evidence of anything.

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    You know what? I will take you at your word and I will never disrespect either of you ever again. You guys deserve nothing but the utmost respect. Honestly, if this is true I am sorry I ever disrespected Wild Cobra in the first place.

    You guys carried out your jobs. But I believe with all my hearts that the directives that put you in harms way were carried out for the gain of a few. I encourage you guys to do more investigation. There are, and always have been, very powerful interests at work that propel us to war.

    Honestly, the people that fight are young, they dont think to ask the questions necessary to get to the bottom of things. And I am not saying this is the case with either of you. But the truth remains.

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    Bottom line: keep asking questions. Keep seeking answers. My friend who lost his mind in vietnam didnt question the war till years later. then he taught me the true reasons for war

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    parker: sorry about being one of those s who bring up the I was there so it means more crap. It infuriated me when college kids would tell me if I supported the GWOT, then I should join up. I didn't take anything you said personal. I totally disagree with it, and as a non-commissioned officer, I don't worry about that. I just have to worry about training the men to be ready to go when our elected officials decide it.

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    "you realize WC and I have both gone to war"

    Excellent, you're immunized against intelligence and critical thinking, and of course, you're more valuable, better, truer citizen than other Americans who are 2nd class after the vets, to whom other Amerians must boot kiss.

    While hating govt and wanting to destroy it, do you ever question that its decisions and reasons for going to war are pure bull . You feel no cognitive dissonance? You don't feel like a sucker for your self-proclaimed patriotism being duped into bull war-making which serves only, which was started only to enrich the MIC machine, spread America's economic imperialism, and enable corporate resource grabbing?

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    "you realize WC and I have both gone to war"

    Excellent, you're immunized against intelligence and critical thinking, and of course, you're more valuable, better, truer citizen than other Americans who are 2nd class after the vets, to whom other Amerians must boot kiss.

    While hating govt and wanting to destroy it, do you ever question that its decisions and reasons for going to war are pure bull . You feel no cognitive dissonance? You don't feel like a sucker for your self-proclaimed patriotism being duped into bull war-making which serves only, which was started only to enrich the MIC machine, spread America's economic imperialism, and enable corporate resource grabbing?
    It took me the course of 5 years to ask the appropriate questions and come to the truth: that our government is being commandeered by the almighty dollar, and that the war was an extension of that.

    The important part is getting the opposing view heard.

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    parker: sorry about being one of those s who bring up the I was there so it means more crap. It infuriated me when college kids would tell me if I supported the GWOT, then I should join up. I didn't take anything you said personal. I totally disagree with it, and as a non-commissioned officer, I don't worry about that. I just have to worry about training the men to be ready to go when our elected officials decide it.
    spursncowboys: read about the profit made from war. read about war profitteers. Every civilization/generation has had them. read about the Bush family, all the way back to Prescott Bush, and his attempt to unseat FDR. Ask questions like: what is it that makes Texas so recession proof?

    draw the correlations surrounding GB Sr., from big oil, to the CIA, to the industrial military complex. Find a good explanation of how greed leads to sending troops into harms way. As my vietnam veteran friend Dale says, "If you want to know why we fight, follow the money."

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    While hating govt and wanting to destroy it, do you ever question that its decisions and reasons for going to war are pure bull . You feel no cognitive dissonance? You don't feel like a sucker for your self-proclaimed patriotism being duped into bull war-making which serves only, which was started only to enrich the MIC machine, spread America's economic imperialism, and enable corporate resource grabbing?
    Bd, just wondering, do you think all wars are unjust?

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    Honestly, the people that fight are young, they dont think to ask the questions necessary to get to the bottom of things. And I am not saying this is the case with either of you. But the truth remains.
    Eh, it's not like it's either or. A war CAN be fought for good reasons, while ALSO serving to line the pockets of those who start it.

    I won't say that military people are dumb and can't think for themselves, because that's obviously untrue. However, leadership does promote of following your orders (assuming they're lawful) even if you don't agree with them, because if you don't, then morale and followership break down.

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    Bd, just wondering, do you think all wars are unjust?
    only since WWII...we were justified there. But there were people in the US making money from the Nazis even then. War profiteers and traitors.

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