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No. See TD21's breakdown in post #2. With the trade for Gadzuric, Tolliver got squeezed out by guys on guaranteed contracts.
Nobody's the least bit concerned that the Warriors didn't even bother offering Tolliver a QO?
No. See TD21's breakdown in post #2. With the trade for Gadzuric, Tolliver got squeezed out by guys on guaranteed contracts.
They are replacing him with Udoh and will have a full roster if they keep the players that did receive qualifying offers.
Gotcha. Makes sense now. Thx.
I don't care if Bonner is back or not but I think the Spurs will make a offer around that money.
Yeah lets sign another undersized big man. I mean teams that make the championship always have undersized big guys that can only shoot .
Agree... sign for the minimum or get another 6'9" SF from somewhere!
Spurs could have signed him instead of Bonner and the impact would have been the same at worst. Guess wasting 16 million or so was just a better idea.
I will take the 40% 3pt shooter over the 30% shooter anyday...
I'll take a mobile energy big with upside that can actually do more than shoot over the one dimensional 16 million dollar man any day.
I agree, Tolliver is a much better rebounder and does much more on the floor than Bonner does
Tolliver at vet min>>Bonner at his current price. I don't see how this is debatable.
Disagree...I will take the energy big(nobody on that court plays with more heart than bonner my man) who can shoot the 3 consistently. Don't hate Bonner cause of how much $ the spurs will give him, not his fault. Do not have time to wait or excess $ for Tolliver who may or may not ever become a legit NBA player.
The Spurs don't have the vet min for Tolliver but can waste millions on Bonner? lol..okay.
, no way...Tolliver sucks people. He played in an offense suited to run and gun this past season and had a couple of big games (along with every other player on that roster).
Unknown player that may not pan out>>proven playoff choker paid millions of dollars.
Not debating pay status, just skill status of today.
You do realize that tolliver played 10 more minutes a game and averaged a whopping 1 more rebound than bonner.
Tolliver last season avg 7 boards, Bonner 3, where are you getting your stats?
That's a pretty dumb statement. You can't debate the two player without looking at the potential financial repercussions. Tolliver at the minimum can be replaced if he doesn't work out. Bonner can't because he's a fat 4 year deal.
Bonner had 1 double digit rebounding game, while Tolliver had 13
Plus Tolliver gets more blks and steals
You are correct, my bad, was looking at career #'s..7 boards in 32 minutes of average gametime does not make someone a good rebounder. Better than Bonner, yes..I still look at the fact that bonner is on the floor to spread out the defense and is much better at this than tolliver. If you want rebounding then play Blair.
Whats dumb is you hating on Bonner cause of how much he makes. Blame the spurs not bonner for that. Bonner's skillset is no secret around the NBA, he is spot up 3pt shooter who spreads the floor. The spurs like this in a big man and feel he is very good at doing this. I gurantee that Tolliver's name never was mentioned in the front office cause his shooting sucks.
Stop deflecting from the point. The point I'm making is that for what Bonner is getting paid and what Tolliver would be getting paid the difference on the floor would be minimal. It might be a little better with Bonner but not a significant amount. Are you suggesting that Bonner is suddenly going to become this amazing contributor that will help this team in the playoffs? Or that he should be a rotation big that plays 20+ minutes per game for the Spurs?
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